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Postby PST » Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:58 pm

Gents,
i love all the knowledge on this site but i was wondering if it would be possible to have a international/diesel section while there may be few posts and whatnot i think it might help bring in more members from around the world and most the other trooper forums are weak... so it would be awesome to stay on this great site and get input on 4jb1's and what not.... thanks for the consideration and sorry if it upsets anyone. Just thought it would be beneficial.

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Postby drinksoptional » Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:04 pm

Can always log on here

http://www.itocuk.co.uk/forums/

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Re: MODS please consider...

Postby PST » Thu Dec 05, 2013 4:58 pm

I've looked on there mate, but it seems like most of threads are about fixing rust or getting it running and not enough cranking up fuel pumps and boost ;)

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Postby CatFuzz » Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:13 pm

I think this is a good idea. Diesels are scarce here and having a section to contain some knowledge about them might be helpful.
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Re: MODS please consider...

Postby JoeIsuzu » Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:07 am

CatFuzz wrote:I think this is a good idea. Diesels are scarce here and having a section to contain some knowledge about them might be helpful.

Funny, I hadn't noticed the lack of a diesel section. I just use the "View unread posts" link every time I return to the site, so sections don't really make much difference.

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Postby Jem Andes » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:39 pm

PST wrote:Gents,
i love all the knowledge on this site but i was wondering if it would be possible to have a international/diesel section while there may be few posts and whatnot i think it might help bring in more members from around the world and most the other trooper forums are weak... so it would be awesome to stay on this great site and get input on 4jb1's and what not.... thanks for the consideration and sorry if it upsets anyone. Just thought it would be beneficial.

happy hollidays :bigsmurf:

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I know exactly what you mean. I'm flipping between like 4 different forums trying to get the best knowledge. There's a small amount on difflock.co.uk, on itocuk.co.uk, and isuzu forums..... blah... It would be nice to be coming here for more diesel tech info. I'm sure a bunch of the folks from Australia and England would come by more frequently.

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Postby JoeIsuzu » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:45 pm

Jem Andes wrote:I know exactly what you mean. I'm flipping between like 4 different forums trying to get the best knowledge. There's a small amount on difflock.co.uk, on itocuk.co.uk, and isuzu forums..... blah... It would be nice to be coming here for more diesel tech info. I'm sure a bunch of the folks from Australia and England would come by more frequently.

There's already quite a bit of diesel discussion, considering the rarity of diesels in the US market. No special section required. I'm not against it (and I'm not a Moderator here, either), but I don't see how a "diesel" section would fit with the existing categories.

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Re: MODS please consider...

Postby drinksoptional » Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:36 pm

there is a few post about cranking up fuel and boost plus the fb page has many talks on the subject .
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Postby PST » Sat Dec 07, 2013 6:23 am

Well it can help as jem andes said because this forum (personal opinion) seems to be more active and people actually respond and if there was a section where the intl people can offer up help info it would rock because sifting through 40+ pages of posts to find one is ridiculous and then u get told to use the search... some of us dont have the 2.8 v6's so we have to go through 4 forums for one answer.... either way just thought it would be nice
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Postby JoeIsuzu » Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:40 am

PST wrote:Well it can help as jem andes said because this forum (personal opinion) seems to be more active and people actually respond and if there was a section where the intl people can offer up help info it would rock because sifting through 40+ pages of posts to find one is ridiculous and then u get told to use the search... some of us dont have the 2.8 v6's so we have to go through 4 forums for one answer.... either way just thought it would be nice

I don't get that. Seems like "intl people can offer help info" anywhere.

Why would you sift through 40+ pages of posts to find one?

The problem with "international" and "diesel" categories is, it would make things even more confusing. So an Australian owner has a problem with his transmission. Does he post it in "Drivetrain problems", "International"< or "Diesel"? And if he tries to find relevant posts, now he has even more categories he's going to have to browse through--or he is STILL going to have to just use the "Search" tools.

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Postby drinksoptional » Sat Dec 07, 2013 6:11 pm

The itoc forum is impossible to get an answer that is true the fb is better and there is a few post on it .

Here is page i think has the manual for 2.8td

http://www.itocuk.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4082


this the ve pump manaul

http://www.dieselbookmarks.com/bombers/VEPump.pdf


the more power thread

http://www.itocuk.co.uk/forums/viewtopi ... 04db955ce8
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Postby Jem Andes » Sat Dec 07, 2013 6:19 pm

drinksoptional wrote:The itoc forum is impossible to get an answer that is true the fb is better and there is a few post on it .

Here is page i think has the manual for 2.8td

http://www.itocuk.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4082


this the ve pump manaul

http://www.dieselbookmarks.com/bombers/VEPump.pdf


the more power thread

http://www.itocuk.co.uk/forums/viewtopi ... 04db955ce8


Thanks man, I've been looking for these manuals. Maybe what we need to do is just start a 2.8/3.0/3.1 diesel thread on here and let the rest come. Then we can build a constant info stream. If it gets big enough, the mods will make space for it.
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Postby drinksoptional » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:45 am

i hope they help.

the later vicc turbos were better on the 3.1 they gave more power and were better built these were found on the 95+ troopers it took it from 115bhp to 126 bhp if i rember.

the early turbos was a vian.Some issue with increasing boost is heat its from what i have been told its trail and error in regards to fuel an boost
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Re: MODS please consider...

Postby Cronk » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:45 am

Isuzupup is a sister site to this one and has some diesel savy folks on the board. I don't see many of them on here since they the diesel was pretty much pup specific, granted there were troopers for a few years.

Maybe TAD and Jack (moderators) can work out something that mirrors questions and info on both sites?

This site is more about modifications and off road, Isuzupup consists more of restoring and maintaining the early gen stuff. Two completely different groups of people which makes for two completly different atmospheres.
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Postby JoeIsuzu » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:11 am

Cronk wrote:Isuzupup is a sister site to this one and has some diesel savy folks on the board. I don't see many of them on here since they the diesel was pretty much pup specific, granted there were troopers for a few years.

Maybe TAD and Jack (moderators) can work out something that mirrors questions and info on both sites?

This site is more about modifications and off road, Isuzupup consists more of restoring and maintaining the early gen stuff. Two completely different groups of people which makes for two completly different atmospheres.

I'd say that's a pretty good characterization of both sites. The Isuzu diesels in the US were limited to the C223 (P'ups and Troopers) and the 4FB1 (I-Mark & Chevette).

I don't think mirroring content would work well, and it would be redundant. Very often, we cross-link specific posts. I can't tell how many Rodeo and late Trooper owners I've sent here, or how many times I've referred people to the 4JB1 Group Buy topic.

Now, about the suggestions
First, my disclaimer: I'm only speaking for myself, as I'm not even a moderator here, much less an admin...
Here's my problem with adding categories. The creator of a forum attempted to categorize all the content that is anticipated on his site. Say a forum operator sets his forum up with the following categories:
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  • Everything else
For now, it seems that should cover everything, right? Then along come some users who are fond of blue things, so they want a "blue" category. Never mind that all blue things could fit another category...they want them all in one category. If the forum's existing categories had been "red" and "yellow" then "blue" might cover a missing segment. But it was organized around other properties of the content.

Now if some users come along (using the example above (Animal, Vegetable, & Mineral) and request a "Spiritual", "Philosophical", or "Metaphysical" category--that one might complement the existing structure. Even though it COULD go into "Everything else", it might have enough content to be a category of its own.

In my opinion, as this board is currently set up, adding an "International" category would be like adding "blue" in the example. That may be overthinking it, but I tend to do that. :( ;)

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Postby drinksoptional » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:31 pm

I was lost at blue .
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Postby DigitalDrifter » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:34 am

I like the idea of a diesel section. Every damn one I ever see for sale is 1st gen 80s models selling like hotcakes for 4k plus. They seem more rare here in the states than mithril, lol.
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Postby fullyboxed92 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:27 am

I agree with adding the diesel section. I dont drive one but a little more actiion on the boards would be neat-o. Plus it would make the knowledge base more accessible and larger.. in general and in terms of the aftermarket. Theres a whole sleu of isuzu goodies we in the states dont often find that are available from international sources.
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Postby JoeIsuzu » Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:33 am

fullyboxed92 wrote:I agree with adding the diesel section. I dont drive one but a little more actiion on the boards would be neat-o. Plus it would make the knowledge base more accessible and larger.. in general and in terms of the aftermarket. Theres a whole sleu of isuzu goodies we in the states dont often find that are available from international sources.

Where's the GAS section?
How does adding a section "increase the knowledge base? (there's already diesel content)
What to do with all the diesel posts that would now be in the wrong section?

Just some questions to consider.

I'm a rabid diesel fan, but I don't feel like diesels have been short-changed at all here.

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Postby mustanger999 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:48 am

Actually I kinda like the idea of a section for our engines it would make it easier to find specific info. You could have a sectiin for 6vd1, a section for 4ze1 and 4zd1, and a diesel section. It might take some work to move posts. But in my opinion it might be worth it to be able to go straight to a specific spot for your engine. That's just my two cents though.
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Postby JoeIsuzu » Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:54 am

mustanger999 wrote:Actually I kinda like the idea of a section for our engines it would make it easier to find specific info. You could have a sectiin for 6vd1, a section for 4ze1 and 4zd1, and a diesel section. It might take some work to move posts. But in my opinion it might be worth it to be able to go straight to a specific spot for your engine. That's just my two cents though.

Obviously, Tad will be the one to make the call. As a site admin on another site, I can tell you--this suggestion would be much more easily adopted on the front-end than after so many years.

If that were implemented, it would need to be only for engine-specific questions. For instance, it would be completely illogical for someone to post a brake question in the 4ZE1 section just because that's what engine he has. Yet that's what would inevitably happen.

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Postby Jem Andes » Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:55 am

mustanger999 wrote:Actually I kinda like the idea of a section for our engines it would make it easier to find specific info. You could have a sectiin for 6vd1, a section for 4ze1 and 4zd1, and a diesel section. It might take some work to move posts. But in my opinion it might be worth it to be able to go straight to a specific spot for your engine. That's just my two cents though.


All the other forums that I had been/am on have the set up that mustanger999 mentioned. When I first came to the planet as a member, I was a little frustrated trying to find some stuff. I'm just used to more specific sections.(i.e.: suspension, transmition, body, engine, ect...) I'm not saying I don't like the planet, but it did take me a little to get used to the set up.
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Postby mustanger999 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:33 pm

Maybe rather than moving ALL the posts pertaining to a topic, just important ones like instructionals could be moved then let the section build from there. I'm just thinking out loud but it just seems this awesome site could be even better with specic sections.
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Postby JoeIsuzu » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:39 pm

And I'm also thinking "out loud" (on screen). The whole idea of "categories" is somewhat dysfunctional anyway. Topics morph.

Browsing by category? Where do you go to find the BEST info about Tires? "Wheels & Tires"? Oops, you may have missed the best, most informative topics if you do that. Why? They just might be in the "Hall of Fame".

Seems like just using "Search" is going to be more productive. Then we don't have to get anal about what categories we have, or where a post really belongs.

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Postby IsuzuGeek » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:45 pm

I think its a great idea. After all, this is called "Planet" Isuzoo, not "USA" Isuzoo. :)

Plus, it would be very nice to open trade relations with some of the other places around the globe with lots of Zus. I for one would love to be trading back and forth for parts.

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