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2000 Trooper Budget Lift?

Postby alabamaoverland » Tue Apr 11, 2017 1:31 pm

I know I am beating a dead horse here, but I am looking to lift my trooper by cranking the torsion bars up 2", replacing all the shocks, and changing the springs.

I was originally thinking about using Duralast v8 Jeep springs in the rear. Would these give me a good ride and lift the rear 2" inches or so? I saw someone using Moog Springs, would these be better than the $40 jeep springs?

What shocks should I run with this setup? I don't want to pay more than about $40 a shock
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Re: 2000 Trooper Budget Lift?

Postby Hack » Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:11 pm

Here is a link to what I did on my 1995 Trooper. Be sure to check out Nasty's original thread that is linked in my post.

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Daily Driver: 1995 Trooper Limited, Auto, 3.2L DOHC, Rear LSD, HD Torsion Bars, Moog Cc812s, Cooper Discoverer A/T3 245/70-16
Trail Truck: 2001 Amigo, Auto, 3.2L, Rear LSD, Front Aussie Locker, DOR Drop Dif, HD Torsion Bars, OME 912s, BFG M/T KA2 33x10.5R15
RIP: 1988 Troop 2.6L 5spd. Burnt valve(s). Damaged frame. Parted out. Sent to crusher.
RIP: 1998 4WD Rodeo, Auto, 3.2L -- Ruined by Daughter #1 with Russian assistance. Parted out. Sent to crusher.
RIP: 1989 Troop 2.6L 5spd --- Stripped of all good parts. Body and rotted frame sent to the crusher.
RIP: 1999 2WD Amigo, Auto, 3.2L -- Engine blown and body damaged by Daughter #2. Parted out. Sent to crusher.
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Re: 2000 Trooper Budget Lift?

Postby alabamaoverland » Tue Apr 11, 2017 5:44 pm

I saw that earlier. That's where I got the idea of Moog springs. Do you think those would be better than the duralast jeep springs? What shocks are you running?
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Re: 2000 Trooper Budget Lift?

Postby Hack » Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:04 pm

The Trooper isn't really a trail truck although I have done some light wheeling with it. My reason for changing the springs was for a stiffer ride and to reduce sag when towing. I am running the stock tire size, stock brake lines and Monroe Monro-Matic shocks. There is plenty of room in the wheel wells for larger tires, but the ones that I have are practically new and work well for how I use the truck.

Don't know about the Jeep springs. I read Nasty's post and found a good deal on the Moogs so I went with them. I am very happy I did.
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Daily Driver: 1995 Trooper Limited, Auto, 3.2L DOHC, Rear LSD, HD Torsion Bars, Moog Cc812s, Cooper Discoverer A/T3 245/70-16
Trail Truck: 2001 Amigo, Auto, 3.2L, Rear LSD, Front Aussie Locker, DOR Drop Dif, HD Torsion Bars, OME 912s, BFG M/T KA2 33x10.5R15
RIP: 1988 Troop 2.6L 5spd. Burnt valve(s). Damaged frame. Parted out. Sent to crusher.
RIP: 1998 4WD Rodeo, Auto, 3.2L -- Ruined by Daughter #1 with Russian assistance. Parted out. Sent to crusher.
RIP: 1989 Troop 2.6L 5spd --- Stripped of all good parts. Body and rotted frame sent to the crusher.
RIP: 1999 2WD Amigo, Auto, 3.2L -- Engine blown and body damaged by Daughter #2. Parted out. Sent to crusher.
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Re: 2000 Trooper Budget Lift?

Postby alabamaoverland » Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:35 pm

Thanks!
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Re: 2000 Trooper Budget Lift?

Postby nasty610 » Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:43 pm

I have OEM Jeep springs on my Trooper now. Personally I think they are a little soft but I tend to carry 2 kids, wife, tools, 3 dogs and whatever other crap the family brings. So I run a little heavier then most. Duralast doesn't make their own parts and honestly they will be made to meet/exceed OE standards just like Moog. Doubt anyone could tell the difference between the two if they weren't labeled.

You didn't mention the type of use you're planning. The type of ride you prefer is a big factor as well. If you give a little more information it'd be a lot easier to suggest a spring.

For 2" of lift I wouldn't bother with longer shocks myself. Especially if your truck see very little trail time or the "trails" you ride are just dirt roads. Just purchase a good set of gas charged OE replacement shocks. Personally I'm running Gabriel's that ran $100 for a set of 4. Most guys on here opt for something nicer but at the time I just needed shocks and the chevaliers have performed extremely well.
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Re: 2000 Trooper Budget Lift?

Postby alabamaoverland » Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:51 pm

It is my daily driver, so a lot of pavement, but doing some dirt/Rock trails every few weekends. Not major rock crawling, but may lift a tire every now and then.

Right now, the ride is too soft and floats. It bounces and doesn't stop for a while. I don't want it to ride like a lumber wagon, but I want it stiffer.

I saw the Gabriel's and thought the price was attractive, but wasn't sure about the quality. It's good to hear you running the same thing I was looking in to.
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Re: 2000 Trooper Budget Lift?

Postby nasty610 » Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:02 pm

Honestly if you don't like the ride now you won't like any version of the OE Jeep springs. The rate is slightly lower then stock so the ride will be exactly the same. I'd honestly suggest a spring with a rate around 200 lbs/in. It's enough to stiffen the rear up but not so much it rides like a real truck. There's serveral springs around that mark in my thread. All the BDS springs will be on the pricey side so try to stick to the Moog springs if you want to keep costs down.

The floaty feel you get is probably worn out shocks so just replacing them will help a lot. I wouldn't say the cheap Gabriel's are great quality but they perform a lot better then work out shocks. The Gabriel ultras are very nice but I think they are double the price. Ride quality and construction will be a lot better then the cheapies I bought.
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Add-a-Leaf kits and Part Numbers
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Re: 2000 Trooper Budget Lift?

Postby alabamaoverland » Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:11 pm

Have you had trouble with tearing CV boots with a 2" T-bar crank? Nasty610? I really don't want to do a diff drop for how light I will be off roading.
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Re: 2000 Trooper Budget Lift?

Postby nasty610 » Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:43 am

For 2" you don't really need a diff drop. It helps with boot life but it's not something that has to be done.
1996 Isuzu Trooper Base model
Front t-bar crank, Rear lifted with 1st gen Grand Cherokee Coils, Cooper Discovery AT3 265/75R16
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Re: 2000 Trooper Budget Lift?

Postby Hack » Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:56 am

If you are really concerned with boot life, it can be extended with manual hubs and disabling TOD. The lift will change the angle on the CVs. The rotation of the angled CVs wears them out. By only using the CVs in 4wd, there is less wear.
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Daily Driver: 1995 Trooper Limited, Auto, 3.2L DOHC, Rear LSD, HD Torsion Bars, Moog Cc812s, Cooper Discoverer A/T3 245/70-16
Trail Truck: 2001 Amigo, Auto, 3.2L, Rear LSD, Front Aussie Locker, DOR Drop Dif, HD Torsion Bars, OME 912s, BFG M/T KA2 33x10.5R15
RIP: 1988 Troop 2.6L 5spd. Burnt valve(s). Damaged frame. Parted out. Sent to crusher.
RIP: 1998 4WD Rodeo, Auto, 3.2L -- Ruined by Daughter #1 with Russian assistance. Parted out. Sent to crusher.
RIP: 1989 Troop 2.6L 5spd --- Stripped of all good parts. Body and rotted frame sent to the crusher.
RIP: 1999 2WD Amigo, Auto, 3.2L -- Engine blown and body damaged by Daughter #2. Parted out. Sent to crusher.

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