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Postby ZuCruTrooper2 » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:03 pm

Are the o-rings and gaskets used on the Zu hubs the same as the Yota hubs? Ideally I'd like to get these on soon and it would be easier and faster if I could pick them up at the dealership...

I couldn't find any info on the internet regarding the differences.

EDIT 10/21/08:

I'm updating this post so that all information in this thread is current.

The following parts will work: (Toyota part numbers)
43532-60010 Dial o-ring
43531-60010 hub cover gasket

This WILL NOT work:
43422-60010 Flange gasket. The mounting pattern on Toyota trucks is vastly different compared to the pattern on our Isuzu trucks.

You can also go to a junkyard, find a Toyota truck, remove the 6 10mm head bolts and pull that whole cap/dial assembly and install it in your Isuzu AISIN hub body. You can also do the opposite (though highly unlikely as the Zus are far rarer than Yoda AISIN hubs).
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Postby onetouch » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:32 pm

I don't know for sure but I going to guess probably not on the gasket and maybe on the o-ring.

This article http://www.off-road.com/offroad/article ... ?id=399668

doesn't address your specific question but it does indicate that the Aisin hub for the Isuzu is different from the rest of the pack as far as bolt pattern, the dial and such.

You might cruise over to the yota forums.

Maybe one of those guys knows for sure.

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Postby ZuCruTrooper2 » Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:47 am

Thanks Jim,

I've read that article about three times today, I'm excited to have my first set of Aisins.

I'll post over on TundraSolutions and resurrect my account there...

Now what colors am I going to paint it??? suggestions?

Also, what would cause a nice burning rubber smell from the rear right tire? Nothing catching on the exhaust.... only on that side. I did have the brakes done about 15,000 miles ago. Stuck piston/e-brake? How would I check those?

Will a bit of ATF on the o-ring make it easier to turn than if I put, say, grease on the ring?
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Postby Gary » Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:36 am

I think the dials are identical. I used Toyota gaskets on my Aisins. They were about half the price of gaskets from my local Isuzu dealer. I didn't change the o-rings, so I can't comment on those.
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Postby onetouch » Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:16 am

Gary wrote:I think the dials are identical. I used Toyota gaskets on my Aisins. They were about half the price of gaskets from my local Isuzu dealer. I didn't change the o-rings, so I can't comment on those.


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Postby ProBMXer1313 » Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:18 am

onetouch wrote:
Gary wrote:I think the dials are identical. I used Toyota gaskets on my Aisins. They were about half the price of gaskets from my local Isuzu dealer. I didn't change the o-rings, so I can't comment on those.


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Alright alright, I used the Toyota o-rings in my Aisins, they are identical to the old ones.
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Postby ZuCruTrooper2 » Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:32 am

Cool, thanks for the info. This makes it much easier.
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Postby ZuCruTrooper2 » Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:50 pm

Some part no's in case someone needs them:

o-ring 43532-60010
flange gasket 43422-60010
hub cover gasket 43531-60010

will stop by TSM tomorrow and see if those will work
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Postby onetouch » Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:34 pm

Let us know what you find out.

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Postby ZuCruTrooper2 » Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:37 pm

My dealership has great prices on the gaskets (and in stock) but wants $5.10 each for the o-rings. Will see what happens with that.

Also, someone once said the Zus don't have a spring and ball bearing, but mine sure as hell does. Well, a spring at least. Will pick up two 1/8" ball bearings tomorrow. Trying to find an o-ring that fits without going to the dealership is my next goal.
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Postby SLipKnoTer106 » Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:30 am

onetouch wrote:
Gary wrote:I think the dials are identical. I used Toyota gaskets on my Aisins. They were about half the price of gaskets from my local Isuzu dealer. I didn't change the o-rings, so I can't comment on those.


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yea really!!!!!i am buying asin hubs right now thx to you guys
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Postby ZuCruTrooper2 » Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:03 am

Couple words of advice:

The base rings 43422-60010 will not work on our rigs. They are different, and much larger. Pattern is different and unusable. O-rings will work however, same with cap gaskets.

Get the right o-ring the first time, it makes the difference between a usable dial (pass. side) and needing channellocks to turn the knob (driver's side). Spend the $5.
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Postby shooter » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:46 pm

I got my O-rings from http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/ ... eid=214001

for 2.79. I ordered 21.00 worth of stuff and my shipping was 7.50. Took 2 days.
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Postby ZuCruTrooper2 » Sun Oct 05, 2008 6:18 pm

Just a quick update on interchangeability:

The entire cap assembly from a Toyota hub will work in place of the Isuzu parts. You can find a Toyota pickup at the yard, unbolt the 6 10mm head bolts, pull the cap/dial/springs/clutch etc (top part of the hub) all out as one piece and stick it on your Isuzu hub body. The opposite will work as well.

The caps are identical, the hub bodies are the problem point for interchangeability. However, the "spacer" and very bottom brass part of the Yota should work on the Zu as well, since the internal splines on the hub bodies are identical. The only differences are the outside of the hub body (Yota has a larger mounting surface, bolt holes farther apart) and the splines for the CV shaft.

Hope this helps someone out there. I picked up a nice looking set of a Yota to replace the "ugly" parts on mine.
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Postby justwork » Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:25 pm

Just bought a set on Ebay and will be doing something similar with mine. Thanks for all the info!
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Postby Ditchdoc » Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:04 am

Subscribed, I should be installing three pair in the next few months, I got the one's for my 92 and 93 Troopers, Still trying to find some 24 spline one's for my 86 Trooper.
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Postby Turkey » Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:11 am

I made my own cap gaskets with sheet material from the parts store. I measured the old ones and made a drawing. Just print this file out at 100% and use it as a Template. http://home.comcast.net/~cushdavi/troop ... perhub.pdf
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Postby kperras » Mon Oct 31, 2016 2:38 pm

ZuCruTrooper2 wrote:Some part no's in case someone needs them:

o-ring 43532-60010
flange gasket 43422-60010
hub cover gasket 43531-60010

will stop by TSM tomorrow and see if those will work


It seems these are Toyota part numbers. Anyone have a lead on the correct Isuzu/Aisin gaskets? I can't seem to find these anywhere.
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Re: AISIN Hub Rebuilding

Postby ddomino » Mon Oct 31, 2016 6:02 pm

I've bought these ones link.Perfect fit.
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Re: AISIN Hub Rebuilding

Postby kperras » Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:12 am

I couldn't find the gaskets so I had to trace them out myself.

FYI the steel detent ball is a 1/4" ball. Any suspension tuning shop should have these are they are a common size for detent balls. The ball+spring is also available from www.marlincrawler.com.

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Re: AISIN Hub Rebuilding

Postby SRN » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:49 pm

I work for an AISIN dealer now and I can put together a complete "rebuild kit" for both hubs that would include:
x2 Dial O-rings
x2 Hub cover gaskets
x2 Detent kits

Cost would be $24.

I'm also checking with AISIN to see if there is an interchange for the hub to wheel gasket that I'm missing in their parts list.

If there is enough interest, I can get the parts coming in.
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Re: AISIN Hub Rebuilding

Postby Fox » Mon Apr 10, 2017 3:38 pm

I actually need the stamped steel ring that retains the large kick out spring.
As well as the bearing that holds the center splined barrel in place.
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