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1995- Rodeo/Passport center caps

Postby rbarrios » Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:20 pm

Hello folks.

Within the past year I acquired a 1995 Honda Passport.
Its located in Mexico. Im in California.
Its used for getting around the ranch. Rural dirt roads.
Its missing the center caps.
The rims are the 9 hole OEM rims.

I bought some caps on ebay.
While cleaning them- one of the holes had a rubber and a metal washer tucked in. You can see them on the right hand side of pic.
Got me wondering--- am I missing 23 rubber and 23 metal washers?

Can someone post pics of a closeup of your OEM caps and lug nuts- and whether or not there are washers on there?

In essence I want to know if its simply a cap put on top of the rim- and then the lug nuts.
Id like to get the parts ready to go-- so I can just install them when I get to the vehicle.
I dont know if the OEM lugs are on the vehicle...
so I plan on buying some Dorman replacements... I just need to know what your OEM lug nuts with these caps look like....
I looked up the lugs on a honda parts website- and then referenced the Dorman site--- but im seeing lots of choices.
Some have washers. Some are bulged, etc.


These are the caps.
You can see they were pretty dirty.
the lower right- you can see where I cleaned a little and left the other side dirty--- for comparison.

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the vehicle on the ranch-- and the 9 hole OEM rims.

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Re: 1995- Rodeo/Passport center caps

Postby kg4miq » Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:21 pm

rbarrios wrote:--- am I missing 23 rubber and 23 metal washers?

Can someone post pics of a closeup of your OEM caps and lug nuts- and whether or not there are washers on there?


Yes, you are missing them. The originals look something very similar to these: Dorman replacement lug nuts with washers

dorman_611-137_lug_nuts.jpg

Original link to high-res photo: HERE

They are also self-locking and require both of the washers (flat and wavy) to work correctly and prevent the center cap from rattling. The self-locking "feature" is the primary reason for many broken lug nuts, since folks don't realize they are supposed to be tight while installing and uninstalling. The washers are the primary reason many folks simply remove the center caps and just use ordinary acorn-style lug nuts.

The photos don't seem to be working any longer, but there was a good discussion here.
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Re: 1995- Rodeo/Passport center caps

Postby rbarrios » Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:31 pm

hmmmm...
now im a little more confused.

Self locking feature?

Ive never had a car- with center caps like this...

thank you for the info on those lugs with those special washers....

keep the info coming in....


I keep looking in parking lots to see if I see anyone driving one of these --- have not seen any yet..............
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Re: 1995- Rodeo/Passport center caps

Postby kg4miq » Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:47 pm

Yes, the inner diameter of the lug nuts is slightly ovalized, which acts in such a way to hold the stud tight and prevent the lug nut from loosening on its own, hence - self-locking. It is best to use anti-seize compound on the studs to prevent these type of lug nuts from permanently damaging the studs when changing/rotating tires.

Many import vehicles (Honda, Isuzu, etc) from the early '90's used a washer-on-lug-nut design to provide retention for the hub cap or center cap. Not so many of them used the self-locking design. Self-locking nuts are fine, as long as you don't get in a hurry (i.e. DON"T use an impact wrench) to remove the nut, which causes heat and friction and will often strip the stud, rendering it unusable and requiring replacement.
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'88 LS Trooper - "Delta" - 4ZE1
'92 Pickup - "Blacktail" - 4ZE1
'89 S Trooper - "Red Leader" - 4ZE1
'89 SE Trooper - "Vader" - 4ZE1
'90 Trooper - "Leia" - 4JG2T swap on hold
'89 Pickup - "Wicket" - 4ZD1
'90 S Trooper - "Nan" - 4ZE1 (possible V8 swap - Ford 302 with 5 speed?)
'94 S Amigo - "Artoo" - 4ZE1, SOLD
'92 XS Rodeo - "Jabba", LH0, 3.1L V6
'89 S Trooper - "Chewie" - 4ZE1, TRADED
'89 XS Trooper - "Red" - 4ZE1, SOLD, bought it back
'89 LS Trooper - "Obi-Wan" - LH0, 3.1L V6
'88 S Trooper - "Stormtrooper" - 4ZE1, SOLD
'91 S Trooper - "Ghost" - L32, 3.4L V6, SOLD
'89 S Trooper - "Angry Bird" - 4ZE1, SOLD
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Re: 1995- Rodeo/Passport center caps

Postby rbarrios » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:39 pm

Id like to thank KG4miq-
for his help in how these lug nuts work.

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