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Re: THE "Wide vs. Skinny" info post

Postby Psychomidgit » Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:39 pm

Being in AK I've found that skinny works best for me. I only run BFG TA KOs on the trucks I've had and hardly have issues on ice.
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Re: THE "Wide vs. Skinny" info post

Postby Storz » Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:36 am

I'm a big fan of pizza cutters
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Re: THE "Wide vs. Skinny" info post

Postby break19 » Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:38 am

What I -like- is the wider tire. Plus, the last time we have -any- snow was about 3 years ago. It must've snowed for 6 hours. No accumulation. None. Ground was too warm.

With that being said, I run 255/70/R15s on my "Suzy" and I like the way they look. Yea.. 15" wheels. 9.5" wide rims. The wheels were on it, when I got it, but it was running 235/55/R15s then. Much lower stance that I liked, so I went to a tire shop, and had them match the O.D. of the original spare as closely as they could.

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Re: THE "Wide vs. Skinny" info post

Postby NE_farmhand » Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:13 am

I've been mulling this over in my head. If I could find the proper rims I could swap the Amigo over to 238/85-16s to match the Dodge (at least on tire size) and hopefully get a little better fuel mileage, but the 31X10.50's work so well, I hate to take the chance of losing the mud and snow capability.

I like the BFG AT-T/A's on it. Probably put them on the Dodge too.
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Re: THE "Wide vs. Skinny" info post

Postby gb89amigo » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:59 pm

NE,

You could find some 16" snowflakes w/o too much difficulty and mount some 31X10.50X16 on them! Same lightweight type of wheel, tire diameter would be the same so would not negatively alter gas mileage. The center caps are the same for 15" vs 16".

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Re: THE "Wide vs. Skinny" info post

Postby Ripah28 » Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:11 pm

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Re: THE "Wide vs. Skinny" info post

Postby NE_farmhand » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:36 pm

Snowflakes???- OK, never mind, I found another post about them, that's what's on mine.
The 235/85r16's are a touch taller than the 31x10.50's.
And I've already got 2 new 31's on it.
I need to find how to change my info on here.
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Re: THE "Wide vs. Skinny" info post

Postby COYOTE102076 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:42 pm

I still think 1) SOMEONE else needs to make a 31x10.50 besides BFG, (Hint hint Goodyear DURATRAC!!! ) and 2) I so wish they would make a 35X10.50 Radial tire! LOL
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Re: THE "Wide vs. Skinny" info post

Postby paulevans76 » Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:40 am

COYOTE102076 wrote:I still think 1) SOMEONE else needs to make a 31x10.50 besides BFG, (Hint hint Goodyear DURATRAC!!! ) and 2) I so wish they would make a 35X10.50 Radial tire! LOL


Interco Super Swamper SSR - 35x10.50 ;)

And pretty much every A/T comes in a 31x10.50 :drunken: including the duratrac. Maybe you meant 33?
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Re: THE "Wide vs. Skinny" info post

Postby -88- » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:09 am

I bet he still meant the 35x10.50.....a size i too would love, and very aware of the swamper.....we wish someone else made a 35x10.5 that didn't cost an arm a leg and a testicle.
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Re: THE "Wide vs. Skinny" info post

Postby paulevans76 » Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:56 pm

-88- wrote:I bet he still meant the 35x10.50.....a size i too would love, and very aware of the swamper.....we wish someone else made a 35x10.5 that didn't cost an arm a leg and a testicle.


Everything costs about that much these days. My brother had a set of those swampers on his trooper - we just got lucky and found someone selling a set used in good shape for a fair price.

If y'all really want one, you should ask the tire companies if they will make one. I'm sure there are lots of dudes in other makes and models who would like a bigger radial pizza cutter option.

You can also always go for the michelin xl's and xzl or xml or whatever they are in a 36x9/16 or 38x11/16, but those are big, heavy --- military tires.
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Re: THE "Wide vs. Skinny" info post

Postby -88- » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:26 am

Meh so-so. I mean swamper while a great tire is already a very proud company and they have the 35 & skinny on lock as pretty much the only source.....but compare a more common 35x12 or something....swamper can be beat handily on price 100-150 less a tire, and still a very comparable tire. Not even big sizes...my 265/70/r17's an odd size, but not extinct...nor all that big. I went kelly tsr safari, the ssr would've been close to another 100bux each tire....& at that point for what? Just the name I've loved the tsrs so far, the need some more snow/ice testing but this is tx.....but chocolate pudding mud up to the rockers and able to work her out. Thin soupy mud just digs down to traction, thick clay like mud where your just kinda on vasoline over hard soil she's slipped, but Nothing beyond expectations & still god. Hard rock, loose rock, slick rock, pavement all good. I suspect they'll wear far better then the ssrs on pavement too......i mean only complaint they could self clean a little quicker/better from the thicker/stickier muds. I gotta get a good spin on'em to really clean them out....

don't get me wrong a name means a lot, & i do respect the hell out of most companies with a heritage, but it's gotten absurd how much they think their name is worth. John deere, harley, interco, case (knives)....i mean I love & respect most of them....but 10-50% more then a comparable company/product for just the name?


tangent sorry....back on topic. Your right we're not the only guys out here that would love something in a 35x10.5....Toyatos, nissans, explorers, tons of vehicles would do well.....but all together we're MAYBE 10% of the market....the companies know where out here, but it would seem not worth their time. I still intend to ask around when I get closer, also pondering importing, in the lands of these trucks these sizes are plentiful...military tires are an option, but as you said weight will be a major concern....atleast my current tire needs (2.6) but my next need (3.2) they may be more viable..... and finally it costs an odd wheel size again but 315/70/r17's depending on manufacturer, actual factual measurements tend to be 34.5-35.5 tall, tread widths usually 10-11.5 inches wide, and section widths 11-12.5 inches wide....all manufacturer pending again, but probably the best/closest/most optional rte for getting a 35x11ish tire....
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Re: THE "Wide vs. Skinny" info post

Postby paulevans76 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:26 am

Specialty tires will typically always bring a premium. I'm sure Interco charges a lot for certain sizes because they make less of them, and in order to cover their costs and make a profit, they have to charge more for the tires themselves. BFG and Goodyear cost more because they have a reputation for high quality, but they are sometimes cheaper in certain sizes because they move a huge volume. Name is part of it though, sure.

Pitbull tires started because off road enthusiasts wanted another option. They might be open to a pizza cutter size in their lineup.

I just remembered that Mickey Thompson used to carry a 34x11.50 and a 35x11.50 in the baja belted tire. I always wanted a set of thosein the 34x11.50 for one of my old IFS troopers, but they are discontinued now. You'd have to find some old stock, and they'd probably be older than 5 years past their DOT date by now. Desert rat has ONE of the old 35's, and everything else on the net looks kinda scammy.
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Re: THE "Wide vs. Skinny" info post

Postby paulevans76 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:00 am

PS - just happened to glance at the Intero cosmetic blems page (http://www.intercotire.com/news-article.php?article=1) and saw this:

Description: XSSR-40R SSR
Size: 35X10.50R15
Quantity Available:5
Price: $255.00

Still pricey, but about $100 cheaper per tire than from 4wheel parts.
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Postby Ripah28 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:01 pm

35. 10.5 r16 all the way!!!
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Re: THE "Wide vs. Skinny" info post

Postby COYOTE102076 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:22 am

paulevans76 wrote:And pretty much every A/T comes in a 31x10.50 :drunken: including the duratrac. Maybe you meant 33?


DOUHHHH!!!!!!!!! :oops:

YEP!!! I MEANT 33X10.50
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Re: THE "Wide vs. Skinny" info post

Postby muddingrodeo » Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:29 pm

I'm pro fat. I would think that would get you better traction and you could run less psi in your tire.
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Re: THE "Wide vs. Skinny" info post

Postby Psychomidgit » Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:03 am

Depends, the wider tires distribute weight more which reduces traction, depending on the surface you're driving on. It's not always best to add surface area to your tire's footprint. A lot of guys up here from down south find this out the hard way because they think "the bigger the better" and end up sliding off the road and into a ditch on the side of the highway.
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Postby IsuzuGeek » Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:53 am

Unless you are doing deep mud or snow, skinny 100%.

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Postby paulevans76 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:40 pm

I'd rather have more surface area for crawlin, but something nice and skinny to dig in on slick hill climbs. 12.50 is a good middle ground width for 33+ tall tires, IMO. I'd love a few sets to play with depending on where I'm going. A q78/16 (35.5x11) or something like that for muddy trails and climbs, and a big fat 36-38 x 14.50 for rocks.
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Re: THE "Wide vs. Skinny" info post

Postby spike » Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:29 pm

There is a recent trend in cycling to go with wider tires due to their reduced rolling resistance. This seems counter-intuitive, but the contact patches [and science-y tests] prove it.

I wonder if the same principles apply to our vehicle tires?

As for me, I prefer the aesthetic of skinnies, but prefer the air-down-ability, terrain-wrap, floatation, rim protection of a slightly wider aspect ratio tire.
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Re: THE "Wide vs. Skinny" info post

Postby H22hybridcivic » Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:14 pm

Well my other ride is a 92 Honda Civic VX. It had 4.5 inch wide tires on it from the factory and we called those "pizza cutters " too. Or u can run the budget skinnies at the drag strip. ( the doughnut spare tires)
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Postby H22hybridcivic » Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:17 pm

Sooo with fat tires I can haul fat chicks ??? J/k
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Postby gb89amigo » Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:43 pm

H22hybridcivic wrote:Sooo with fat tires I can haul fat chicks ??? J/k



Well, usually "fat chicks" are still very fluffy and relatively light as in less than a pound. Any other type of "fat chicks" could jog alongside, vastly and eventually improving their overall health, vigor, and longevity! Even with skinny tires, they still would be rated to not only support the vehicle attached to, but the rated passenger weight, unless of course, the very, very morbidly obese. HTH

H22, you were kidding, right? If not, I'm looking for bigger eggs!

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Re: THE "Wide vs. Skinny" info post

Postby alabamaoverland » Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:20 pm

I like the tall, skinny look. I think I am going to go with 235/85r16's when I get new tires. First post!
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