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Re: Revive an 88 Trooper

Postby RickP » Fri May 27, 2016 10:54 am

I thought I would share some pics of the Moab trip. It ran great except for an issue that showed up in Kansas on the way out there where I couldn't let it go past half a tank, otherwise it would feel like it's running out of gas. I do need MO POWA. Once I add bumpers and more gear, it will be too slow for me on extended road trips. It's okay with lower elevations and flat ground, but once it get's into higher elevations, inclines and high winds, it struggles a bit.

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Re: Revive an 88 Trooper

Postby RickP » Fri May 27, 2016 11:01 am

I got everything I could off of the donor and brought it to the scrapyard today. I used a winch and engine hoist to get it on the truck. Unfortunately, it rotated and went on it's side. I just rolled with it and stuck it on the flatbed on it's side.
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Re: Revive an 88 Trooper

Postby SSSRodeo » Fri May 27, 2016 1:03 pm

Dang, I would have loved to have snatched that entire roof off that thing before you sent it to the crusher.

Got this idea about making a tilt up roof Trooper for camping.

That or use it on the stretched Trooper I'm gathering parts for.
That one is going to be a Crew Cab Trooper Pickup!

Oh well!

Moab is a fun place to play.
Cut it, hack it, weld it, make it better!
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Re: Revive an 88 Trooper

Postby RickP » Fri May 27, 2016 1:41 pm

SSSRodeo wrote:Dang, I would have loved to have snatched that entire roof off that thing before you sent it to the crusher.

Got this idea about making a tilt up roof Trooper for camping.

That or use it on the stretched Trooper I'm gathering parts for.
That one is going to be a Crew Cab Trooper Pickup!

Oh well!

Moab is a fun place to play.


It wouldn't have been cheap to get the roof from Alabama to Texas.
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Re: Revive an 88 Trooper

Postby RickP » Sun May 29, 2016 9:17 am

I worked on the fuel pump yesterday to try to figure out what the "running out of fuel" issue was. I cut a hole in the floor to make future fuel pump work easier. The pump that was in it, was installed shortly before the Trooper was taken apart a couple years ago and I didn't see anything obvious that was wrong. I installed the pump from the donor Trooper. Just the pump. I used the same, bracket, hose and sock to just eliminate the pump. I took it for a long drive out to the interstate where there are a bunch of long inclines and it performed flawlessly down to a 1/4 tank. So I guess the pump was the culprit.
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Re: Revive an 88 Trooper

Postby hessmess » Mon May 30, 2016 9:31 pm

I need to cut that hole in mine too.
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Re: Revive an 88 Trooper

Postby RickP » Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:37 pm

The a/c fuse kept blowing and it looked like a bad coil in the clutch, so I installed a rebuilt compressor. I took everything out and flushed it. I've got nitrogen at work, so I used it. I got everything back together, but ran out of time to charge it since I had to go out of town for work.
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Earlier, I said I would show a pic of the Explorer trans cooler I installed.
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I'm in CO for work and found an 86 with a grille. $39 for grille, headlight mounts, side markers and a perfect coolant overflow bottle. Problem is I drove a truck out here, but will be flying home.
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Re: Revive an 88 Trooper

Postby RickP » Sun Aug 14, 2016 9:33 am

I finally got around to getting the A/C buttoned up. I ran into a problem discussed here viewtopic.php?f=1&t=87902&p=777039#p777039.

I recharged the system with R152a and it blows cold. It varies between 38-42 but is usually in the 40 degree range according to my cheap thermometer.
$11.xx for a 3 pack at Walmart.
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Re: Revive an 88 Trooper

Postby hessmess » Sun Aug 14, 2016 12:41 pm

I was just reading this yesterday and was wondering where this was at. I am fighting with my AC also and have yet to get it going but I have a new compressor and hopefully this next Friday it will all come together. Did you end up walking away from the grill setup in Colorado? I got mine back on a week ago and I am loving it. My old headlight were all rusted up and watery, the round eyes actually work better due to the poor condition of the stocks.
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Re: Revive an 88 Trooper

Postby RickP » Sun Aug 14, 2016 12:56 pm

The round eye stuff is sitting in a buddy's basement in CO. The company I work for is based out of the Denver area and I routinely have to drive there or drive a truck back to our AL office, so I'll wait until that opportunity arises versus risking shipping it.
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Re: Revive an 88 Trooper

Postby PPCLI-JIM » Sun Aug 14, 2016 4:38 pm

if you see another round eye setup Il take it if you can package it ill pay for it and mailing up here to canada
Its a small amount of fuel , but it's a whole lot of walking..Note from my Dad
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GUNS LOTS AND LOTS LOL
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Re: Revive an 88 Trooper

Postby RickP » Sun Aug 14, 2016 4:45 pm

PPCLI-JIM wrote:if you see another round eye setup Il take it if you can package it ill pay for it and mailing up here to canada

I'll keep an eye out, but In think I just got lucky. Whenever I travel for work, I stalk the local Craigslist and check the inventory of local U Pick type junkyards.
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Re: Revive an 88 Trooper

Postby SAS » Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:49 am

RickP wrote:I worked on the fuel pump yesterday to try to figure out what the "running out of fuel" issue was.


Rick, we have had the same issue in son's ''88 Trooper 4ZE1 for many months. Figured change-out would be the solution, but in the interim just kept filling fuel when the gauge shows 1/2 tank. Thanks for posting your similar/near identical case. Oh, and we, too, have cut the floor hole for access!
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Re: Revive an 88 Trooper

Postby RickP » Sat Oct 08, 2016 10:58 am

The issue with mine has not returned since changing the pump. I've driven it to below E (yes I'm one of those people) without any problems.
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Re: Revive an 88 Trooper

Postby RickP » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:56 pm

The Trooper has gotten much attention in the past few months. I've been driving it though and it has performed flawlessly. I bout a couple cabins on 23.66 acres back in September and they have been getting all of my time and money. Another one of my purchases I stumbled upon on Craigslist and had to have. :) I couldn't pass up the price of $85k. They do need some work though. The larger one was about 75% done and the smaller one just has rough framing on the inside. So far I have finished the kitchen and one of the bedrooms. I plan on moving there soon, but I'll have to figure out what I'm going to do for work, since because of the distance, I'll need to find a new job. It's Got a nice little creek running through it, also.
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Anyways, back to the Trooper. I finally got around to installing the round headlight grille. It was fairly straight forward. I sprayed the grille with 3 coats of SEM Trim Black. The headlight trim rings were already gone when I grabbed it at the junkyard. I found a pair of trim rings from a 70's Dodge Pickup where the mounting tabs lined up on the headlight bucket, but didn't line up with the holes. Also, I had to bend the tabs so that the trim rings would fit tight. In another thread, Suzuki Samurai trim rings are said to work, but they were over $40 shipped and I only paid $1 for the pair of Dodge rings, I drilled and tapped new holes and they fit great.
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I didn't want to do much if any cutting of the harness. I bought 9007 to H4 adapter, because they were cheap on Amazon and I just had to swap the ground and low beam wire in the connector. 9004 to H4 adapters are available, but harder to find. I wanted to install some Cibie's, but don't have the funds right now, so I bought some GE Nighthawk sealed beams.
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I just scraped some of the insulation on the wires and spliced and soldered in the "new" connectors for the turn signals and marker lights. I installed new 1156, 89 and 194 bulbs.
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Re: Revive an 88 Trooper

Postby PPCLI-JIM » Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:30 pm

Im a ex army - navy guy that did wood working as part of my job and i can say thats nice looking wood work !
Its a small amount of fuel , but it's a whole lot of walking..Note from my Dad
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Re: Revive an 88 Trooper

Postby RickP » Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:59 pm

PPCLI-JIM wrote:Im a ex army - navy guy that did wood working as part of my job and i can say thats nice looking wood work !

Thanks, Jim. I dabbled in a few different things, but spent most of my career as a carpenter, specializing in doors.
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Re: Revive an 88 Trooper

Postby hessmess » Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:48 pm

Wow that is some nice work, I also have a history in woodworking a few decades back. We did custom cabinets, specialized in oak. Did many remodels. What a find on the cabins! It sucks you need to find a new job but it will work out somehow. Oh yeah, the Trooper looks great! I have done it on several of mine. Moab this year?
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91 LS Trooper, 5 speed, 3.4, bored intake, LSD, rebuilt using parts donated from the first 91
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Re: Revive an 88 Trooper

Postby RickP » Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:31 pm

hessmess wrote: It sucks you need to find a new job but it will work out somehow. Oh yeah, the Trooper looks great! I have done it on several of mine. Moab this year?

Thanks, I'm not a huge fan of my job anyways. I quit it once a couple years ago and 4 months later they asked me to come back for a temporary job and I'm still here. Not sure about Moab. I'm not much of a planner. If I decide to do something, it's usually at the last minute.
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Re: Revive an 88 Trooper

Postby hessmess » Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:49 pm

I was all set to go to Moab this year, but my wife ended up in the hospital this last week, so that will put a damper on it. We had a trip all planned and paid for to go to Orlando in March, still planning on that one but I won't say Moab is out yet.
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Re: Revive an 88 Trooper

Postby RickP » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:50 pm

I've been driving my Trooper daily since my Festiva needs a new inner tie rod installed and I haven't found the desire to do it, yet. Yesterday I changed out the shackle bushings. The ones that were in it were shot. Today I started to install some of the onboard air stuff. I installed a manifold in the engine compartment that houses a pressure gauge, 130 0ff/100 on switch, 150 psi pressure relief valve and a check valve. I have two Sanden compressors in my parts stash, but I think I'm going to try to locate a York and mount it where the smog pump used to reside. I noticed a compressor sitting outside at the plumbing shop next to my work and I was informed the motor was bad and it was in his scrap pile. I asked how much he wanted and he said free. I have an almost identical one that had a bad unloader switch and was able to use it to fix mine. I then cut off tubing around it and it will eventually get mounted to the underside of the Trooper. Thanks to Dave (outofyourshell) for the idea. It will probably be a month or two before I get to the compressor.

Besides the basic fittings, here are the parts I've used so far:
Interstate Pneumatics FPM44SR manifold purchased on Ebay
Kleinn 2130 pressure switch https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EV ... UTF8&psc=1
150 PSI pressure relief valve http://www.compressor-source.com/1_4_Ma ... -4-150.htm
3/8" NPT inline check vavle http://www.compressor-source.com/Air_Co ... l3838u.htm

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Re: Revive an 88 Trooper

Postby hessmess » Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:08 am

I got a bunch of pieces saved up for mine also but have not done anything about installing. Dave also gave me the idea and I took some pictures of his setup when I saw him a few years back. I will be watching to see how this goes.
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Re: Revive an 88 Trooper

Postby RickP » Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:56 am

hessmess wrote:I got a bunch of pieces saved up for mine also but have not done anything about installing. Dave also gave me the idea and I took some pictures of his setup when I saw him a few years back. I will be watching to see how this goes.

I've had some of these parts for 3 years. I was originally going to install them on my AMC Eagle I used to own, but never got around to it.
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Re: Revive an 88 Trooper

Postby RickP » Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:21 pm

I got around to installing the tanks and ran a line to the front and to the back. Since I do garage doors on the side once in a blue moon, I have a bunch of perforated angle iron, so that's why I used it. It worked out pretty good.
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I considered installing the rear fitting behind the fuel door, but I didn't want to drill into the body, so I installed it on the rear bumper. The front valance would have been a good location for the front fitting, but once again, I couldn't bring myself to drilling a hole in the perfect sheet metal. Both my bumpers are in bad shape and I'm eventually going to build new ones, so I had no problem drilling holes in them. I used 2 1/4" NPT bulkhead fittings. I got them at Fleet Pride and they call them frame nipples.
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Re: Revive an 88 Trooper

Postby itsmehb » Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:04 pm

Your real estate purchase is great looking. Looks very rural and scenic. where is it? And what luck finding the round eye grill. I've been looking for one for all most 2 years. We haven't had an 84-86 in the scrap yards here in a while.
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