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Re: My 98 Amigo/02 RS, "The Meego"

Postby egagnon086 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:37 am

I have a set of OEM dual fans from a 02 Rodeo sport I took the body from, along with all the wiring harness, relays, and fuses to make it work. It looks to just bolt up to the radiator on the engine side, I just need to remove the engine fan to make it fit. I just didn't know if there was any significant improvement, ive never acutally had a cooling issue with the current fan, but it is starting to stay engaged at lower temps. I've powered them on with a spare battery, they put out some serious juice, not sure of the amp draw but the fuse is 30 amps.

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I may experiment, I was thinking using a temp switch to turn on one fan when it hits ~190 deg, and then use the A/C relay to turn on the other fan. And maybe wire in hard switches to just turn them on and off manually.
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Re: My 98 Amigo/02 RS, "The Meego"

Postby lorenzo816 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:57 am

Yeah thats it.
sorry my memory fuzzy sometimes.
I must be thinking of the trans fan on the front.
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Re: My 98 Amigo/02 RS, "The Meego"

Postby egagnon086 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:55 pm

Anyone have any good ideas for mounting a 60" hi lift? I was thinking about clamping on the bull bar or making brackets and bolting to the rear door by the hinges.
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Re: My 98 Amigo/02 RS, "The Meego"

Postby egagnon086 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:26 am

Spring Beasley Knob trip was a great time. I even had to use my winch this time. but nothing could stop us. See more pics of the GA Zu Cru on this thread:
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But I will post my Gratuitous Poser shots here.
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Finally up top, They have done some major trail work here, the top of the mtn in completely changed, be a great camp site.
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While on top, the mtns micro weather patterns set in and it started pouring, it made things way more interesting on the way out.
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Re: My 98 Amigo/02 RS, "The Meego"

Postby ZuminaZX » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:16 pm

How did the locker work out?
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Re: My 98 Amigo/02 RS, "The Meego"

Postby egagnon086 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:36 pm

The rear locker works much better this time around, I think the guys who installed it when they did my gear set up put it in wrong. It's not hard to do on this powertrax model, I put it together on the bench 4 different ways that would fit in the carrier but only 1 way is correct. I stayed locked, I even did alot of the trail in just rwd. It's a twisty trail so the locker up front hinders my steering Abit. It's nice to be able to switch it off and still have a locked rear to push me up and over. I did use my winch on one rough apot, it was about a 2-3 ft rock ledge. I made it up under my own power but used the winch line to keep from rolling backwards. I'm extra cautious now, I don't want to be on my roof again...

The only issue I had was the tight twisty MTN roads to get there were not much fun with locker pushing me when it reengaged after a turn. After While I got use to it, did alot more coasting then driving in a turn. But id say as long as this one doesn't break it's gonna stay in the rear.
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Re: My 98 Amigo/02 RS, "The Meego"

Postby egagnon086 » Wed May 17, 2017 3:55 pm

Finally got around to making a proper "skid/bash" plate, I've gone through 3 oem ones they are all bent up. This one is all 7 ga steel plate. With 1/4" gussets on the back.

Pics mounted up. It covers from the bottom of my bumper to the first crossmember infront of the diff, my plan is to continue it back to tailshaft on the trans. I just need to get dimensions and might need to remake the crossmember under the pinion of the diff.
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I've been spending a lot of time on my wife's "new" Trooper, I need to share the love on the Meego. I have a new rear diff cover to install, older "Rockcrusher" cast cover.

Once I get the Trooper to Daily driver status, I'll have some flexibility on dropping the trans in the Meego and installing my Revo's..
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Re: My 98 Amigo/02 RS, "The Meego"

Postby totten » Sun May 21, 2017 7:19 pm

You got her trail ready. Thanks for pictures . Like the skid plate improvement,great :D
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Re: My 98 Amigo/02 RS, "The Meego"

Postby egagnon086 » Tue May 30, 2017 11:58 am

So I did alittle work over the long weekend.

I got my HD rear dif cover on, Just clears the track bar.
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another shot from the side shows the ribs in the cast iron. Should quiet down the locker abit.
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I worked allot on my wifes Trooper it is big, how it compares to the Meego.
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Next up 34"s TSL SS from Joe D. on steelies and Revo gear install.
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Re: My 98 Amigo/02 RS, "The Meego"

Postby egagnon086 » Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:37 am

It's going to get real this weekend, Dropping the trans to install Revo gears maybe put a new clutch in it.

I got everything loose, I'm hoping to drop the trans this afternoon.

Saturday will be gear day. Then testing. Be prepared for updates.
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Re: My 98 Amigo/02 RS, "The Meego"

Postby Toccoa » Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:15 pm

egagnon086 wrote:It's going to get real this weekend, Dropping the trans to install Revo gears maybe put a new clutch in it.

I got everything loose, I'm hoping to drop the trans this afternoon.

Saturday will be gear day. Then testing. Be prepared for updates.


Hey, at least it's not scorching hot! Good luck on the updates.

34s on Meego? That's insane.
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Re: My 98 Amigo/02 RS, "The Meego"

Postby egagnon086 » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:57 pm

Got the Transmission down with help from my friend, And gratuitous use of ratchet straps and various floor and bottle jacks.

Note make sure all the "cover" plates are unbolted all the way before trying to pull the trans out. Also the "quick connect" style throwout bearing is a pain when its never been removed in 160k miles it was partially rusted on.
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Once wrestled down onto the waiting creeper, I wheeled the beast into the garage, going to clean today get the GA red clay and NC white mud off this Transfer case.
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I noticed during the removal of the trans the trans mount and both motor mounts are collapsed, the trans mount is actually torn apart. Got new ones ready to install.

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Go the clutch out, it was burnt on one side only .8mm down to the rivits, the other was oily looking and not very worn. The fly wheel looks good so I roughed it up with some 80 grit. The clutch metal disc looks like it was burnt several "spots" on it. The center of the clutch as all blue and purple.

I got a list of things to do this weekend, and the last thing is to bolt the trans back in and test it out. Wish me and Lorenzo luck.
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Re: My 98 Amigo/02 RS, "The Meego"

Postby lorenzo816 » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:59 am

Well I'm going to jump on this and update the Planet.
Seriously Eric's dissasembly of the case went smoother than any other one I have worked on.
It was a blast getting this thing apart. And we were thinking everything was great and no "gotchas" but yea we had one big gotcha at the end.

So I show up Friday and Eric has the trans pulled.
Fn great. Hours of work already done! Yay!
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We dove right into it and split the case.
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Knocked the pins out and pulled the main shaft bearing. Talking smooth as butter.
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Pulled the 4wd output out. And then yanked on the main shaft synchro gear to swap out the low gear.
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And this ladies and gents is what a bare housing looks like.
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So we stop after about an hour or two and get back into it the next morning. Literally all done in about 3 hours.
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The rear case went on so easy but yeah forgot the bearing. So pull it back and tap it on. Snap ring in place and now its time to put it in the truck.
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And here it is like 3pm and I was thinking hell I get to go home and chill. But nooooooo way Jose.
The damn thing would not go into 2wd. The rear case wouldn't seal up to bolt in all the way.
The gears were meshing and wouldn't rotate. We had to unbolt everything and pull the trans back out of the truck. Sucked but we figured out why after playing with the rails for a bit and learned a valuable lesson.
Check your detents before putting it together! Dammit. So Eric is going to try and get this swapped. He should be a pro now swapping these and once the rail is replaced, its golden!
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Re: My 98 Amigo/02 RS, "The Meego"

Postby egagnon086 » Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:37 am

I have to say a great thanks to Lorenzo for being a Pro at this. I learned a great deal not to mention a good lesson on why to double check things before you try and reassemble.
We learned that 98+ amigos/rodeos don't have synchros on the main shaft only the 4wd shaft, also the SOTF shift rail is powered by little motor that needs to be actuated into 4wd to remove, before you take it out of the truck. or you may slighty bend the end of the shaft.

So from what Lorenzo said above, I got the to work getting this thing back apart, using what I am going to say is likely the most thorough set of instruction to do this swap that Lorenzo wrote in my shop manual. If anyone needs a copy I can send it.

So, another caveat to "Uninstalling" these new gears and shift rails. The OEM low/high rail comes apart with pins. The Revo shaft is 1 pc. So we noticed this when we installed everything and had to install the shift forks and gears all at once. This made it a serious pain in the --- to take apart, because you have to reach around the shift fork to reach the back low range gear to pull it up to clear the other stuff. I ended up going through all 3 iterations of locations on my 3 jaw puller to find one that may reach without just pulling the synchro ring and fork. I had to grind on the outside and inside of my new 3 jaw puller to clear everything on the fork and the case. But I made it work.
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It does make you feel bad pulling on the teeth on a brand new gear.
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Then the real issue, the shifter rail.
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So the moral of this story, like most of my installs, check your sh*t first. especially if you have any model on a cut-off/ new model year. like a 97/98.

Also, If anyone needs a wide set revo detent rail let me know..lol
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Re: My 98 Amigo/02 RS, "The Meego"

Postby Toccoa » Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:23 pm

Oh man! :shock: Undone by one part. :(

Looks like it was a smooth operation up until that point. So what does the revo gear give you (besides trouble)?

I think you've now disassembled every part of your Amigo. Impressive.
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Re: My 98 Amigo/02 RS, "The Meego"

Postby egagnon086 » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:10 pm

Stock low transfer case =2.05:1
Revo low =3.07:1
So gear math: 1st*TC*Diff=
3.76*2.05*4.56= 35.15
3.76*3.07*4.56= 52.64
So lots more torque and lower speeds for better control off-road. Also helps for pushing big tires.
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Re: My 98 Amigo/02 RS, "The Meego"

Postby Toccoa » Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:15 am

egagnon086 wrote:Stock low transfer case =2.05:1
Revo low =3.07:1
So gear math: 1st*TC*Diff=
3.76*2.05*4.56= 35.15
3.76*3.07*4.56= 52.64
So lots more torque and lower speeds for better control off-road. Also helps for pushing big tires.


Cool. More torque is always a good thing.
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Re: My 98 Amigo/02 RS, "The Meego"

Postby egagnon086 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:48 am

Got my revos in with the correct shift lever, all seems to shift well and bolt up ok. I'm gonna button it up today. See when I can get this trans back in the truck. Oh and my 34" SS got here today. Just wait for pics...
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Re: My 98 Amigo/02 RS, "The Meego"

Postby Toccoa » Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:41 am

egagnon086 wrote:Got my revos in with the correct shift lever, all seems to shift well and bolt up ok. I'm gonna button it up today. See when I can get this trans back in the truck. Oh and my 34" SS got here today. Just wait for pics...


34" tires. I gotta see this.

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Re: My 98 Amigo/02 RS, "The Meego"

Postby egagnon086 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:58 am

I'm not going to mount these until after I get the Trans back in the truck, But I'll leave this here to build suspense....

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Re: My 98 Amigo/02 RS, "The Meego"

Postby lorenzo816 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:01 am

Which are those?
if they are the LTBs, just a word of warning, you'll burn them up DDing it since they are super soft and Bias.
I cant remember what you got from Joe.

Miss my LTBs for so many reasons, but I don't have a truck/trailer so i'm sticking with radials for now.
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Re: My 98 Amigo/02 RS, "The Meego"

Postby egagnon086 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:09 am

They are LTBs, they have been raced once, so there are some gashes. I wont DD these tires, they are offroad only for me. I'll either drive up and swap them there or see if my dad wants to follow me in the truck. 4 of these in the back of the Meego should provide really good traction right. Lol
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Re: My 98 Amigo/02 RS, "The Meego"

Postby lorenzo816 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:42 am

IIRC, Tad and Joe Berry and another guy would drag a mini-trailer just for that reason, and then use the platform for the tent for camping.
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Re: My 98 Amigo/02 RS, "The Meego"

Postby egagnon086 » Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:25 am

So got the trans in the truck yesterday evening, just had enough time to test the 2wd to 4wd and while it does "work" it isn't working like it was. The "SOFT" motor shifts the TC to 4wd and holds it just fine. But when shifting back into 2wd it "fails" and retries, then it just locks back into 4wd. If I am rotating the driveshaft while it is trying to "SOTF" it blinks super fast and will stay in 2wd sometimes. So I removed the motor assembly again and shifted back and forth by hand with no issue. So, I'm going to fill this bad boy up and reattach all the wires and such like im suppose to and see if it is some other sensor its waiting on to trigger the "2wd". If I cant get this silly thing to work Im going to take this motor assembly apart and either hot wire the dang thing or turn it into a manual shift with a cable or lever. I really want to test out this crawl ratio, but also need to be able to drive it to work.

Also, the 34s do look awesome on it, but still leave me wanting something "wider" so maybe when these cook up Ill go for some 33x12.5s , pics soon
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Re: My 98 Amigo/02 RS, "The Meego"

Postby ZuminaZX » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:28 pm

you need to reset your relay/4x4 module under the console
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