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Re: Done with IFS - my turn for SAS

Postby lorenzo816 » Fri May 23, 2014 1:09 pm

Looks like Chris and I's measurements were spot on.
The sticks come out the same spot around 24" back from the bell.
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The bottom view without the case or cross member on it yet.
Slave cylinder bolt right up
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Tcase is in the trunk and a new cross member needs fab'd up.
Need to get shaft made for the front, and the rear re-tubed.
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Re: Done with IFS - my turn for SAS

Postby bradzuzu » Fri May 23, 2014 4:30 pm

That's awesome !! I do have a couple of auto cases sitting around :)

I'm lookin forward to seeing it on the road/trail bud !!
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Re: Done with IFS - my turn for SAS

Postby lorenzo816 » Fri May 30, 2014 3:19 pm

Excited now.
So Chris managed to put together my spare rear two piece shaft and make a single shaft with minor changes.
Using a Toyota rear yoke and a 'washer' cut from the burn table and two new holes, the shaft was a perfect fit. Talk about dumb luck.
So if I need to make a spare I can grab a rear isuzu shaft, trash the center carrier section then go find a rear yoke on a rear Yota shaft.
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We're at 39-40 degrees at full droop up front!
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The cross member for the trans bracket couldn't be reused on both sides because the new position is about 5" further back and the front link has to cycle up/down.
So Chris moved it back to where the torsion bars used to bolt in and then ran a bar up to the passenger side mount: Genius! Simple is better!
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Can't wait to get this on the trail.
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Getting rear shaft made with thicker wall.
Got new rear shocks coming.
Going to change out shackles and bushings at some point and few minor other things.
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Re: Done with IFS - my turn for SAS

Postby lorenzo816 » Fri May 30, 2014 3:30 pm

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Re: Done with IFS - my turn for SAS

Postby bradzuzu » Fri May 30, 2014 8:43 pm

Pretty sharp angles but she looks awesome !! I'm happy for ya man :)
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Re: Done with IFS - my turn for SAS

Postby lorenzo816 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:43 am

Sorry day behind but all done and went over to Chris' shop and got my test drive in.
Clutch needs be bled but I swear the AR5 trans shifts better than my old MUA5.

I bolted the tcase stick in and locked the hubs then proceeded to drive around testing 4hi and 4lo.
Since we still had the cover and rubber off the shifters, it was kinda nice to be able to check the front shaft as it spun.

Now I FINALLY have 4wd. Its been a year since I touched dirt.
Gonna have to head out soon to get a real test in.

I need a good spotter since I am so used to the rear doing all the work, when I was IFS on 34's.
Last thing I am waiting on is the shifter mechanism from OX. I don't think I got it or I lost it.

Check out the sticks now. I switched shifter balls back to my originals. Amazing how I lucked out, not having to cut floor to fit.
They are a few inches taller since the Trooper was a high seat and low floor kind of setup, like a Disco or Prado is. I will have to get used to it.
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And the rear shaft from Superior.
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Its time to get back out in the woods.
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Re: Done with IFS - my turn for SAS

Postby bradzuzu » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:19 am

Awesome man !!
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Re: Done with IFS - my turn for SAS

Postby lorenzo816 » Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:53 pm

Drove it a few times but took about 6 days off because I've been busy as heck!
Plus the clutch needed to be bled. I needed my helper for that.
Bled it saturday with my son and the test drive confirms that the transmission is good!
Shifts a little better than my old MUa5, Reverse is a little whiney but I guess that is how those AR5s are.
Anyone want to chime in here and give me their experience with the 5 speed AR5 reverse whine?

While I was at it, I had to redo my booster push rod adjuster.
Damn brake lights were sticking on because the plunger on the sensor wasn't getting tapped all the way.
:? Spent way too much time under the dash and steering column, fixing that.
Didn't have enough time to finish the install of my OX shifter.

I still need to get my parking brakes changed out but I did get one thing done!
Tapped the reverse switch on the AR5. You need a reverse light!
I confirmed which plug it was and spliced it, then got some quick connects and wired into the wiring harness in my truck.
Looks like I got it right the first try!

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Confirmed with Jerry that the first two plugs are dummy upshift lights for the dash.
The MUA5 has the reverse switch light plug on the left so I had to add some wire.
Cut an air hose and wrapped the wire job up when I was done to keep them ensulated and protected.
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Re: Done with IFS - my turn for SAS

Postby Hatfield » Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:17 pm

lorenzo816 wrote:Anyone want to chime in here and give me their experience with the 5 speed AR5 reverse whine?

Can confirm, mine is one whiny sob in R. Get that thing on the trails asap.
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Re: Done with IFS - my turn for SAS

Postby lorenzo816 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:11 pm

Sorry for the late posts, but been very busy!
I got it out on the trails last last weekend at a private place in the mountains of NC.

Man I went over stuff I have been dying to climb but couldn't do back when I only had a locked rear and 34" LTBs.
Damn truck did good and with the locker up front, I climbed some pretty gnarly and steep trails with ease.
I had to get winched once because I was double hung up on some muddy rocks. Both the front and rear tires had boulders in front that I couldn't get over.
I was close once but slid sideways. Damn it! :evil:
Anyhow here is some pics from the trail ride and also a few flexed out at a local 4x4 meetup.
(my shocks in the rear don't have much travel so the rear didn't squat like it could with those Dakar springs. We'll fix that later!)
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Re: Done with IFS - my turn for SAS

Postby bradzuzu » Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:09 pm

That rocks !!! I bet you where like a kid in a candy store for the first time :)

How's the gearing ??
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Re: Done with IFS - my turn for SAS

Postby paulevans76 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:29 am

Looks good, dude! I need some 4lo therapy myself. I bet that was a good time.

I may take my trooper to your bud's shop eventually for some work. More than likely I'm moving out to the other side of Charlotte this year, and I'm not sure if I'll have my garage set up to do much of the serious work I want to do for a while.
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Re: Done with IFS - my turn for SAS

Postby lorenzo816 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:02 am

Brad, yea man I need lower TCase gears and that's next, then bead locks.
Don't think I need cromos just yet.

Paul, did you buy Ruby?
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Re: Done with IFS - my turn for SAS

Postby paulevans76 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:14 am

Yup, actually have it over at East Coast gear supply getting a few things done while I'm away for work. One is the front driveshaft is being replaced by an Oliver's unit, and from what they said the guy knows exactly what I need from doing another Isuzu recently, probably referring to yours.

edit - meant to ask: do you have a functioning ebrake? I have got to rig something up on mine. I have the cables coming off the brakes but they are just zip tied up out of the way, connected to nothing.
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Re: Done with IFS - my turn for SAS

Postby lorenzo816 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:46 am

Yea pm me
We'll talk via ph
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Re: Done with IFS - my turn for SAS

Postby imamonstertruck » Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:27 pm

Lorenzo! :D Well done sir! I am really looking forward to meeting you and seeing this beast first hand.

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Re: Done with IFS - my turn for SAS

Postby asghilo » Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:15 am

i keep checking this thread just to get a woody on the fab work :lol:
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Re: Done with IFS - my turn for SAS

Postby GoodyMOBB » Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:19 am

Dayumm!!! Looking good man!
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Re: Done with IFS - my turn for SAS

Postby 88bronzetrooper » Thu Aug 14, 2014 4:47 pm

Looks good man when are we all going to meet up. Would love to see yours and Ruby.
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Re: Done with IFS - my turn for SAS

Postby lorenzo816 » Sat Oct 25, 2014 2:39 pm

I've done a little bit of work to the truck in the past two months.
Got the right side hub 'shimmed' up with these:
http://www.ingallseng.com/26126-6-bolt- ... -shim.html

Put my tires back at a matching angle on both sides. I was extremely positive on the right like this, if it makes sense: | / now both are as close to this as I can get it: | |
Here are a few pics of the shim job.
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Also put some 4 degree shims in the rear. I should go back to Chris and get him to move the perches but this will do for now.
I had to move the pinion down because the aussie in the rear was rattling when I'd coast or let off or on of the gas. Not cool.
Didn't match the output angle on the trans either. To be completely fair, I did swap trans and we had no idea at the angle that the AR5 was gonna be out at.

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Also, not too long ago, I noticed that when I was on and off the brakes that I could feel a shifting up front and a clunk sound.
Turns out I busted a lower link on the driver side. Got another from Chris and swapped it out before my last wheelin trip... the one that involved a monkey, towing a CJ home, blowing my fuel pump and even a delorean. Ya no joke. Long story. :D
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I also added a horn to my current annoying Barbie Isuzu horn. Hate how our horns sound soooo wimpy!!
I yanked this from am old 5 series BMW in the yard awhile back and just tapped the line to the current one:
I like how it sounds, kinda duotone sounding.
Its the lower one - if you can't tell.
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If I catch up with you guys in Uwharrie, I'll share my monkey story.
Y'all know Poser Rock, well had to get up it and go under for a shot!
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Re: Done with IFS - my turn for SAS

Postby bradzuzu » Sat Oct 25, 2014 10:30 pm

That's awesome !!!
How many trips out have you made now ??
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Re: Done with IFS - my turn for SAS

Postby Jonesy » Wed May 20, 2015 12:19 pm

anymore updates?

How are things working out for you? What is your frame height on this thing? Say, right below the B pillar? Just curious how tall it is compared to my truck.
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Re: Done with IFS - my turn for SAS

Postby lorenzo816 » Wed May 20, 2015 12:29 pm

Ah yeah check out my Revo gear install postand my latest Mega Huge Timing belt and Coolant job post.

I haven't been out in months!
Now I really need to pass inspection.


I'll do some measuring later today and post back.
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Re: Done with IFS - my turn for SAS

Postby lorenzo816 » Thu May 28, 2015 11:36 pm

Jonesy wrote:anymore updates?

How are things working out for you? What is your frame height on this thing? Say, right below the B pillar? Just curious how tall it is compared to my truck.


Floor to bottom of the frame right below the B-pillar is just about 26 1/2" at street tire pressure.
There is a body mount there if you want to compare locations.
My truss cradling the trans lowest point is 23"
Other than that, the only thing I have hanging "down" are the drive shafts.
I admire how 'flat' it is underneath.

Looking at a trip to KY here in July.
I'll post up pics as things happen.
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Re: Done with IFS - my turn for SAS

Postby Jonesy » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:49 am

How did the trip to Kentucky go? Any updates?

How are things holding up? Were you ever able to figure out valving? It appears you have Fox shocks, which is what I have...and up front I seem to feel a harshness with my custom valving....when I hit a cut out in the road (manhole cover, small pothole, etc) where if feels like the shock is bottomed out even though there is 3" of shaft showing. I wonder if the compression valving is too much and it can't cycle well enough for onroad.

Also, still running 200/250 springs? How much preload do you have? How much shaft is showing (up travel)?

I'm still trying to dial mine in, and you are the only coil over Isuzu I know of to compare to
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