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Re: 1990 Trooper Refresh Project

Postby paulevans76 » Mon Feb 15, 2016 3:00 pm

Perhaps an unpopular opinion, but to play devil's advocate, if you consider the difference in how "lightly" you must "tread", i.e., wear and tear on the trail, altering the trail via moving rocks and whatnot, sometimes it's better to have the ground clearance and traction to make obstacles in one or two tries. You've proven yourself as a solid driver and you really know your rig well. I'd go so far as to say you are a better driver than your rig allows, and IMO that's the time to start evolving the rig. It doesn't have to be 35's, but maybe a bit more lift, 33's and deeper gears, a locker or two, that sorta thing. But it is a slippery slope, for sure...once you start breaking stuff, you're gonna want to upgrade further, and then you end up with a never-ending list of $1500 projects that can't ever get done...ask me how I know :D
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Re: 1990 Trooper Refresh Project

Postby shaggydoink » Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:53 pm

paulevans76 wrote:But it is a slippery slope, for sure...once you start breaking stuff, you're gonna want to upgrade further, and then you end up with a never-ending list of $1500 projects that can't ever get done...ask me how I know :D


Yeah, that's definitely another reason why I'm hesitant to start tinkering!! :shock:

I do get your overall point, and agree - lack truck capability (or of driver skill or both!) can indeed often result in added damage to the environment. To date my choice has been to rely more on recovery gear/techniques or simply skipping a trail or obstacle that I know is beyond what I should try to attempt, although I'll admit this limits me a bit as you noted... definitely a fine balance to find, eh?!

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Re: 1990 Trooper Refresh Project

Postby wmorrisiii » Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:58 pm

Great pictures, the mud hole shot is a classic! I don't think there is any question you could make good use of a locker and some more lift, but personally I really like seeing everything you do in basically a stock truck. I've been following for awhile now and I don't remember seeing or hearing of you getting left in the dust by any of the locked and loaded Jeeps or Rovers. Looks to me like you are doing fine, and you don't have to shed a lot of tears (or cash) like you would if you were trashing a 20 or 30K truck. I'm not doing technical trails, just hunting a lot of off (sometimes way off) road spots. With 2 " of lift, 31 "AT's, an LSD, and locking hubs, I feel comfortable going pretty much anywhere. I've also yanked some very stuck Jeeps and other 4x4 trucks out of mud, ditches, snow drifts, creeks, etc...that were set up way better than mine.

I hate off camber crap. Let me know when you get used to it, I never have and I'm almost positive that isn't ever going to change.
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Re: 1990 Trooper Refresh Project

Postby chuffer » Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:23 pm

shaggydoink wrote: is this being determined by your recovery? Available time? Both?

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Re: 1990 Trooper Refresh Project

Postby superman27344 » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:10 am

Looks like you had a blast out there again. Let me know when you are wanting to get a group together for private ride out there like you talked about before. I really enjoyed Big Creek back in January.


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Re: 1990 Trooper Refresh Project

Postby paulevans76 » Tue Feb 16, 2016 10:39 am

chuffer wrote:
shaggydoink wrote: is this being determined by your recovery? Available time? Both?

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Both. Btw, I hold to my threat that one of these days when I am in NC I am gonna look you up. I have to make a trip to Hickory sometime in Q2.


I'm 1.5-2 hours south of Hickory, so holler when you get out this way. If I'm not shipped off somewhere, I could help arrange a beer/bs session or even a trail run.
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Re: 1990 Trooper Refresh Project

Postby bradzuzu » Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:42 am

I always enjoy your photos Jon , who hasn't gotten stuck in a mud hole before :)

As far as off camber stuff , that fear is there for a reason , it means you have a brain and hood sense !! I don't like edges or getting tipped towards edges , I've had some hairy moments on trips that once past was very much so relieved lol

I might have something you could use or want , I'll be in touch :)
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Re: 1990 Trooper Refresh Project

Postby Ruination » Sat Feb 20, 2016 12:50 pm

bradzuzu wrote:....Jon , who hasn't gotten stuck in a mud hole before :)


Yup, we've all been there Jon!!

Hell I high centered my truck and parked it on the drivers door before I even made it to the mud hole on this run once!

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(yes that's me standing there looking at it like a dodo bird!)

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(just don't forget your gloves!)

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Re: 1990 Trooper Refresh Project

Postby DSUZU » Sat Feb 20, 2016 1:44 pm

Maybe you guys need rock sliders with horizontal wheels mounted on them. Dennis
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Re: 1990 Trooper Refresh Project

Postby bradzuzu » Sun Feb 21, 2016 6:59 pm

One of the first times out with my 91 (stock) I couldn't even get up the trail because of one little 2" tree root , yea I was feeling slightly confused that day :)

That was also the same spot my buddy's kid blew his rear end in the same spot ...

That first pic of you staring at the situation ruination is priceless haha !!!
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Re: 1990 Trooper Refresh Project

Postby shaggydoink » Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:24 pm

After several back-to-back work trips where everyone I encountered seemed to have one sort of illness or another, my immune system finally caved which left me curled up in a ball with a cold, chills, aches and mild fever for the better part of last week. I finally felt human again yesterday, and with the weather being spectacular today I decided that I'd get myself outside and replace the tailpipe which I *thought* would be an easy 15-20 minute project... which in reality turned into a cursed Amigo-like episode that ended up taking much longer and involving way more tools than I would have ever imagined! LOL!! :banghead:

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Here's a shot of the old one:

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Yeah, it was probably about time to swap it out. :roll:

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Re: 1990 Trooper Refresh Project

Postby chuffer » Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:16 am

According to both the laws of Newtonian Physics and Murphy the words "exhaust" and "easy" cannot be used in the same sentence. Ever. Just sayin'.
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Re: 1990 Trooper Refresh Project

Postby Ruination » Sat Mar 05, 2016 6:12 pm

That looks exhausting!!!
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Re: 1990 Trooper Refresh Project

Postby bradzuzu » Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:18 am

You guys are so mean it's like a rusty old muffler pipe :)

Good job getting it fixed John !! I always hate eating sparks and not having an escape path ...
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Re: 1990 Trooper Refresh Project

Postby V6 PETERTROOPER » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:03 am

I have read all 68 pages of this thread over the last 2 days, what a amazing transformation :D
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Re: 1990 Trooper Refresh Project

Postby electricpuppyboy » Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:42 pm

I'm not sure how I was not subscribed to this thread, but I am now. Keep up the fantastic work!!
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Re: 1990 Trooper Refresh Project

Postby shaggydoink » Sat Jun 04, 2016 11:08 am

Well bloody hell. The high pressure hose burst on me while I was out on the trails last weekend so I took a break from my camper work to swap it out which I figured would take all of about five minutes. Fast forward to about two minutes in, Einstein didn't realize that the wrench had slipped off the nut on the bottom side and I ended shearing the metal line completely in two. :banghead:

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There's a 1987 Trooper in a local yard that I'll try to get a replacement line from tomorrow morning before it gets too hot, if I can't then I'll have to continue driving without the power assist until I can get a replacement from Johnny or Jerry.

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Re: 1990 Trooper Refresh Project

Postby shaggydoink » Sun Jun 05, 2016 7:57 pm

This morning I got an early start and head over the salvage yard to get a replacement line. It came out of this 1987 Trooper, 277K miles:

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The repair turned into a complete comedy of errors. I get home, drain the radiator so I can pull it and reinstall the new line, pop it in, connect the replacement hose I got from Advance Auto....... and it isn't right. &$#&#!! :x

Back to LKQ to get the high pressure hose I should have grabbed to begin with. I get home and get the new hose in place and close the drain on the radiator so I can fill it and be done and the entire plug shears off. #&@^!%%@@%$#!!! :angryfire:

One more trip to LKQ for a replacement radiator, then a swap at home and FINALLY I finished. Elapsed time, about 7 hours. :roll:

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Re: 1990 Trooper Refresh Project

Postby DSUZU » Mon Jun 06, 2016 5:11 pm

Hardly ever see any first gen Troopers in the yards around here lately. There's an 89 minus the head on Craigslist that says it will go to LKQ if no buyer. Hate to see that happen, but I'm certainly in no position to do anything about it right now. Dennis
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Re: 1990 Trooper Refresh Project

Postby bradzuzu » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:32 pm

That would have me pulling my hair out !! :shock:

Glad it's all back together now , sorry for your pain :alien:
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Re: 1990 Trooper Refresh Project

Postby shaggydoink » Fri Oct 28, 2016 7:59 pm

I was aware that I hadn't posted up on this thread for a while, although was a little surprised to see that it had been over four months! The past couple of months in particular have been pretty insane between work, family, trail trips, the camper project, a trail mapping project... yeah, even I will admit I got myself a little over extended there for a bit. :roll:

As for the old Trooper, it's had a good run out in the wild. Together we rolled through some trails:

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More trails:

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And yet more trails:

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Got stuck on some trails... oops:

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And even got in a little beach time:

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Within the past week I finally had a chance to give the poor guy a little TLC... this included a few boring replacement parts like ball joints that had exploded, as well as a few more notable items like a new winch, improved hand and locked throttle control and new tires. I'll post up a few pictures of these tomorrow. :mrgreen:

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Re: 1990 Trooper Refresh Project

Postby wmorrisiii » Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:38 am

URE coming up, time to buff up and make everything good on the Troopers :lol: After sitting on new front lighting for a year, finally got that all hooked up last week. Ran it up in the mountains last night to check the lights and see how it did with the new 32" AT's. Lighting was spectacular, 32's not so much...going to be a long haul up 109 to the Outpost in a week. really looking forward to seeing the Shack there and hitting the easy trails, not going to finish the rear with the LSD so basically going stock this trip. I'm parking next to you so my overly pampered truck can learn something from yours about what a stock truck can do. Two four bangers and my 6 headed down from VA. We are all pretty confident we can make it down and back, especially given that Blaines Trooper is going to be full of tools and parts :lol:
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Re: 1990 Trooper Refresh Project

Postby shaggydoink » Sat Oct 29, 2016 7:05 pm

wmorrisiii wrote:I'm parking next to you so my overly pampered truck can learn something from yours about what a stock truck can do.


These little, old trucks are insane, air down to 12psi, pop into 4-Low and they seem to go almost anywhere!! :mrgreen:

As promised, here are some pictures of the more notable items. New winch:

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Steel cable for now, I'm going to switch over to synthetic rope once I save up enough money. New tires:

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After spending way more time researching than any human should I chose to purchase a set of Nankang Mudstar MTs, 32x11.5x15. A friend of mine had been doing tire research and hit me with an interesting concept, he spent the majority of time studying opinions and reviews from people in places like Australia and South Africa where the terrain is unforgiving, the Nankang brand surfaced as being a fairly popular choice. They don't have much brand recognition here in the US, but if they do as well as people say they do I'll be psyched... especially since they're 50% less than BFGs!!

Last but not least, the modified hand and throttle controls. The concept for the throttle control came from Chris Cole (president of I4WDTA), I had the unique opportunity to cross paths with him on a trail ride a few weeks back and got a lot of neat ideas from the insanely cool, 80's Toyota he was in. Step one was to make a small bracket out of angled aluminum:

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Step two involved modifying a throttle control that I got from a farm supply store for $15:

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Step three was installing the wiring to the gas pedal, this round I took the time to get this and the original hand throttle connected with proper fittings vs. the ghetto setup I did originally. Here are a couple shots of the end result:

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While I'm sure I'll be happy to have everything squared away for the fall ISUZU gathering, what I'm gearing up for even more is the trip I'm planning on taking the week after... a 390 mile off-road excursion across the state of Georgia. It's almost 1,000 miles when all is said and done... yeah, I'm both excited and completely freaked out at the same time! LOL!! :shock:

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Re: 1990 Trooper Refresh Project

Postby paulevans76 » Mon Oct 31, 2016 8:28 am

Looks great! Gotta post up a full rig shot with the new shoes though.

Your hand throttle is saweet. I'm thinking of using my parking brake handle in a similar fashion since it's no longer used for its original purpose. I need to get myself a crimping tool as well.

Good stuff man!!

Also, can you share any details on the GA of road excursion? Sounds pretty fun!
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Re: 1990 Trooper Refresh Project

Postby shaggydoink » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:51 am

paulevans76 wrote:Also, can you share any details on the GA of road excursion? Sounds pretty fun!


A friend of mine discovered the trip via this site:

http://www.georgiaoverland.com

The original track has around 60% off-pavement, he made the run this past Spring and was able to find some alternative routes that increased this a little more - so still some paved sections here and there, but a fair bit is dirt. He said there are almost endless side roads and trails to explore on either side of the main route, so I expect we'll use his last trip as the basic guide, but deviate when things peak our interest. The trip will be over twice as long as I've ever driven my truck in a single run so I've got some apprehensions, at the same time I've been building up my collection of gear, parts, tools, etc. over the past couple of years in preparation for such journeys, so I figured it was time to give one a shot. I'll definitely post up a trip report!

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