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02 civic, what's going on?

Postby sigsauer357 » Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:54 pm

2002 honda civic lx manual tranny 1.7 engine 252k miles on it

so over the last month or so i've noticed my car acting weird

i was driving down the hwy doing about 70. next thing you know, the car just slows down and will not accelerate when i step on the gas. i put it in neutral and the battery and oil lights come on. i pull it aside and turn it off. wait a few minutes and it drives off again with no problems

it happened again 6 days later, same exact situation. and then again 4 days after that. took it to a shop and they replaced the timing belt and water pump as well as the seals

today i pulled out of the driveway and was shifting from 1st to 2nd gear and then into 3rd. the car jumps and slows down, and oil light and battery light comes on. i downshift and it jumps again. i pull over and turn it off, wait 4 minutes and then crank it up. it doesn't crank up at all. it turns but doesn't completely start the car. i can hear the starter trying to fire up

after waiting 10 more minutes i crank it up and drove to work 35 minutes with no problems. when i got home i replaced all the spark plugs just in case to rule out any problems. plugs i put in are ngk platinum g power

anybody know what could be happening?
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Re: 02 civic, what's going on?

Postby Von » Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:27 am

Ugh, i hate Hondas. I know they're good cars, I think it's just the way they sit and feel like a go cart...

Check engine light isn't coming on? Before, during or after the episodes?

Maybe a fuel problem? Bad regulator or clogged filter? Heard a guy say "Change the fuel filter! I don't care what your car is doing, change the filter first! They're cheap and it probably needs changing anyway." Several times I should have followed that advice myself.

Might have the fuel filter changed and pressure tested. I've worked on a few Hondas and Acuras but all were mid to late 90's models.. The only one that wasn't fuel related was a little control box right by the heater duct... all the hot/cool cycles eventually broke some solder joints and when the car got hot inside it wouldn't start.
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Re: 02 civic, what's going on?

Postby N law » Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:01 pm

Check the resistance on the coils. My wife's 4Runner just had horrible problems. That were diagnosed as a bad coil pack. It didn't set the CEL until it got really bad.
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Re: 02 civic, what's going on?

Postby sigsauer357 » Sat Mar 05, 2016 10:27 pm

Von wrote:Ugh, i hate Hondas. I know they're good cars, I think it's just the way they sit and feel like a go cart...

Check engine light isn't coming on? Before, during or after the episodes?

Maybe a fuel problem? Bad regulator or clogged filter? Heard a guy say "Change the fuel filter! I don't care what your car is doing, change the filter first! They're cheap and it probably needs changing anyway." Several times I should have followed that advice myself.

Might have the fuel filter changed and pressure tested. I've worked on a few Hondas and Acuras but all were mid to late 90's models.. The only one that wasn't fuel related was a little control box right by the heater duct... all the hot/cool cycles eventually broke some solder joints and when the car got hot inside it wouldn't start.


i like the feel of a go cart, hahaha

no check engine light at any point. i run fuel cleaner every 5 tanks. fuel filter was changed last oil change

the car seems to have intermittent starting issues regardless of whether it's warm or cold
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Re: 02 civic, what's going on?

Postby Von » Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:11 am

Well that's the extent of my Honda knowledge. N law may be onto something.
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Re: 02 civic, what's going on?

Postby gwana66 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:39 am

Hondas are notorious for bad relays, especially the main relay that controls the fuel pump. $5 part.
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Re: 02 civic, what's going on?

Postby radare » Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:57 am

gwana66 wrote:Hondas are notorious for bad relays, especially the main relay that controls the fuel pump. $5 part.


I agree. Sounds like a fuel-delivery problem. Check out that relay and see if its failed. You can pull it apart and resolder the connections.

http://honda-tech.com/honda-civic-del-s ... y-3041030/

http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/mainrela ... relay.html
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Re: 02 civic, what's going on?

Postby sigsauer357 » Sat Mar 19, 2016 7:44 am

pulled to codes, read up on it. seems like a common problem among 7th gen civics. it's the camshaft sensor. i bought the sensor and the harness just in case it was bad as well. gonna put it in this weekend when i have some time
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Re: 02 civic, what's going on?

Postby sigsauer357 » Thu Mar 31, 2016 8:06 pm

installed the sensor. haven't had a problem since, but now my car shutters a good bit when it sits idle in neutral
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Re: 02 civic, what's going on?

Postby angryspic78 » Sat Apr 02, 2016 12:25 pm

yea i was gonna recommend the cam shaft sensor.....those things are NOTORIOUS for goin bad. Engine gets hot then loses power and stalls out. I hate the design. Now your shutter problem have you checked your motor and trans mounts? Your mileage is up there. 1 or a few could be broken.
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Re: 02 civic, what's going on?

Postby sigsauer357 » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:52 pm

i'll do that next
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