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Re: 2014 Silverado Review

Postby Cronk » Sat Dec 06, 2014 2:13 pm

One other thing with the Ford, the center console was so big my dad couldn't get his seat belt fastened because it was crowding him. Lucky for me, the F150 needed an oil change and also had a recall. I swapped it for a Dodge.

First impression of the Dodge is good. Seat is more comfy, ride is more like the Chevy and the controls are in viewable range. The key will take some getting used to (strange plastic thing cars are going to) and so will the dial gear selection. I do like the plethora of plug ins. It has 2 USB ports, 2 cigarette lighter ports and a built in power inverter. This one also has XM Radio which will be nice with the drive I'm making now.
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Re: 2014 Silverado Review

Postby Cronk » Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:59 pm

I guess I keep updating this hoping someone from the automakers read it and take into account some of what I say, possibly use it to make their trucks better.

That being said, I really liked the Dodge. The extra displacement of the Hemi was obvious and very fun to drive. I learned it had the 8 speed transmission which made the torque band available whenever you needed it. It was also equipped with a heavy duty sway bar and the sucker took turns like a champ. I actually raced a couple of turbo-ed up ricers on a road trip that Hatfield and I took. :shock: Even running it like I did, we still squeaked out 20 mpg. My only gripe was the strange gear selector dial on the dash but that was about it. The electronics were a lot easier on the eyes (less blinking and flashing) I actually liked the truck so much I went and priced one, never thought I would ever look at a Dodge. Sent it back only because it was two wheel drive, otherwise I'd still be driving it.

My replacement truck is a 2015 Chevy Silverado 4wd. Now I'm not sure what is different between it and the black 2014 I had originally. This one is anemic in comparison, at first I thought it was the 4.3 but that wasn't it, it has 8 spark plugs. I need to see if maybe it's the small 4.8 or has different gears? Not sure but it is a dog compared to the other one. I still have the same dislike for the electronics and the 4wd is buggy in this one. Currently it is stuck in 4wd and if I have much wheel spin, the computer shuts the 4wd down. Not cool when you need it. From what I read, there is a recall on this issue. I still hate the fact that stabilitrak kicks back on about 30 mph. Looking on the web, there is no way to over ride stabilitrak either. That in itself will keep me from buying a 14' up GM truck.

Unfortunately I'm stuck with this one for a bit, I learned the bumper is as weak as the inside of the bed. The guys at work used it to place some instruments, in doing so, ran into the water truck. The right front bumper has a nice big dent in it now. Gotta get that sorted out somehow, hoping a body dolly pops it back out as easy as it went in. I want to trade it for one of the all new aluminum pop can ford F150's which look a bit like the Toyota Tundra to me.
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Re: 2014 Silverado Review

Postby -88- » Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:37 am

Keep posting.....I'm reading...no need to comment....just absorbing.
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Re: 2014 Silverado Review

Postby Ruination » Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:50 pm

I should start reviewing my rental cars.. last week in Indiana I didnt get to enjoy the A/C Seats much :)

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Re: 2014 Silverado Review

Postby 94Rodayo4x4 » Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:06 am

Cronk wrote:
That being said, I really liked the Dodge. The extra displacement of the Hemi was obvious and very fun to drive. I learned it had the 8 speed transmission which made the torque band available whenever you needed it. It was also equipped with a heavy duty sway bar and the sucker took turns like a champ. I actually raced a couple of turbo-ed up ricers on a road trip that Hatfield and I took. :shock: Even running it like I did, we still squeaked out 20 mpg.


Fun Fact: Dodge did put a speed limiter on this truck, and it may or may not be over 100mph. 8)

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Re: 2014 Silverado Review

Postby -88- » Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:22 am

102?


Ruination......if you want me to read ur reviews, well you gotta do better the 'i like dem dar flicky-doo hand chifters'
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Re: 2014 Silverado Review

Postby Ruination » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:52 am

-88- wrote:102?


Ruination......if you want me to read ur reviews, well you gotta do better the 'i like dem dar flicky-doo hand chifters'


If only you knew what I do to rental cars.

I hope no one here ever buys a rental car.
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Re: 2014 Silverado Review

Postby N law » Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:07 am

Ruination wrote:If only you knew what I do to rental cars.


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Re: 2014 Silverado Review

Postby -88- » Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:27 am

Yea on second thought, you just go ahead & keep that to yourself.
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Re: 2014 Silverado Review

Postby Ruination » Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:06 pm

-88- wrote:Yea on second thought, you just go ahead & keep that to yourself.


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Re: 2014 Silverado Review

Postby -88- » Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:44 pm

It explains alot tho, I once got a rental that had, clown shoes, a diving helmet, bull rope & bell, that reeked of donkey.........an owner i know why.
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Re: 2014 Silverado Review

Postby Von » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:38 pm

I look in on this thread every once in a while, just out of curiosity. I have absolutely no interest in buying a new... or even newer truck. I haven't chimed in because ... well, I had no frame of reference. I rode in a 2006 Silverado once in 2006. Then i thought.. whaaaat? this is a truck? And I rode in my father in law's 2013 Ford F350.. nice, plenty of power.. but the interior was kinda cheesy. I thought he was nuts for paying 40 grand for a truck and didn't have the heart to tell him about the exhaust fluid thingy. he found out himself...

Anyway, until I rented a 2014 Ford to fetch transmissions.. The newest truck I'd driven was my 93 Z71... And I thought it was too mushy and newfangled to really call it a truck.... OH, and the 97 Ford my wife bought for her oldest boy years ago. ... Had the big V8. Good engine, rest was junk....

But I was checking out the 14 Ford while I was driving it... Plenty of power, drove decent... I stopped at Herd's Hamburgers in Jacksboro, TX on the way back. I was leaving Jacksboro, cruising at 60 mph and unwrapping my burger, watching the road and my burger and steering with my knee. I thought I would do that and get the burger paper in the optimal burger eating position while watching the road... and then when I had burger in hand and other hand on the wheel I would ease up to the 75 mph limit... Got the burger all set, put other hand on wheel and noticed I was doing 90 mph.

Unlike my Herd Burger (they forgot the cheese) the Ford interior had plenty of cheese... plastic crap...Uncomfortable seats. When i dropped it off the kid at Uhaul got in to check the mileage. I was standing on the passenger side when he closed the driver's door and I saw the passenger door skin flapping around like there was somebody INSIDE the door with a hammer. Flimsy POS...

And when did they change the turn signal switch? I thought it was broke at first. The stalk doesn't stay in the up position when signaling for a right turn. Engineers changing crap just to be changing crap.... not an improvement, just a change.. gotta leave their mark.
Why I remember when I used to ride my triceratops to school... hand signals were just fine then....

I liked the drive train... the rest was over priced crap. I'd give 4 grand for one if I could remove all the electronics, slap a carb on it and put the engine and trans in my truck... sell the rest as scrap.

LOL, guess I still don't really have anything to contribute to this thread...
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Re: 2014 Silverado Review

Postby N law » Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:47 pm

The talk about the Ford that von rented made me think of this topic which came up yesterday. The all new aluminum body F150. Sure, its lightweight, but can you afford to repair a panel? Will insurance go up on the number 1 best selling truck? Again, engineers changing things just to change things.

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Re: 2014 Silverado Review

Postby Von » Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:49 pm

N law wrote:The talk about the Ford that von rented made me think of this topic which came up yesterday. The all new aluminum body F150. Sure, its lightweight, but can you afford to repair a panel? Will insurance go up on the number 1 best selling truck? Again, engineers changing things just to change things.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/joannmuller ... pair-bill/


haven't read the article yet. But I'd bet money on the rates go up. I know they were lightening it up for better fuel economy, but... man, newer vehicles are flimsy enough... just a little tap and you're bending sheetmetal and supports on half the car.
Saw a Chevy truck commercial the other day and they mentioned how THEIR trucks were made out of REAL steel...

I've always liked Ford trucks but those engineers have just been going nuts. My wife almost had me talked into just buying myself a new truck a few years ago. I was looking at the Ecoboost F150's. Was planning on it being the last vehicle I bought for me and driving it into the ground. Then saw where you had to remove the cab to do any real work on the engine.... Figured I'd be about 65 when it would need work and I wouldn't be able to afford to have it done and couldn't see me prying the cab up with the hi-lift jack to pull the intake... Officially gave up on the "new truck for me" idea. I'll just stick with the Fairlane and the M715.... well, and the 04 GTP till I get EITHER one of them running...

My brother in law had a 2014 Ecoboost F150 for about a year and got T-boned. The other guy was leaving a parking lot at around 20-30 MPH and hit him. The repair estimate was somewhere around 20 or 22 grand. They were going to repair it until he found out they were going to replace PART of the frame. The frames are modular now... He threw a fit and had it totaled.

Okay... I've jacked up this thread enough... backing away. Carry on...
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Re: 2014 Silverado Review

Postby -88- » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:06 am

Jacked it up? Your musings are better then any of ruination's contributions :D
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Re: 2014 Silverado Review

Postby Ruination » Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:18 am

-88- wrote:Jacked it up? Your musings are better then any of ruination's contributions :D


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BTW... on the new fords, the turn signal stalk is more of a button push now rather than a mechanical click AKA all digital. You can actually bump it in the same direction to turn it back off.. something I somehow got used to doing because I rent a lot of fords these days.

For anyone wondering the new Ford Explorer (front wheel drive) is comfortable as hell but drives like a flushed turd on the highway.

I am laughing at you folks talking about the "cheezy" interiors on new cars. That's what you get! ALL new cars are like that. Don't you guys have troopers that sound like a Tin can when you close the door? :lol:
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Re: 2014 Silverado Review

Postby -88- » Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:47 am

A trooper has nothing on a solid roof spacecab.

so you even considered the interior of the Cadillac 'cheesy'? I double checked your review, but couldn't find that tid-bit......seemed mostly you droned on about paddle shifters.
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Re: 2014 Silverado Review

Postby N law » Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:00 am

All modern cars have fancy interiors; even the cheap ones. The nicer the car, the more finished they are. I'm not certain its a bad thing, but I don't want all of the gadgets on a car that I plan to own for a while. A few examples are the BMW that my dad bought- it came with an analog car phone from the factory. A year or so later, they all switched to digital and the phone sits there, fitted into the arm rest and hasn't been used since 1999... Or we go an Chevy SSR that had the amplifier in the radio go out. Suddenly, you can't hear the turn signals working or the low gas "ding" because its all tied together. Put an aftermarket radio in right? Wrong, none of that stuff would work without spending a fortune to get it all straightened out!!! That kind of stuff scares me more than the cheesy interiors.
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Re: 2014 Silverado Review

Postby Ruination » Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:37 am

I think all new car interiors are crappy these days but really the "high trim" model GMs are OK if you like the stiff leather feel of things. Overall the seats and such were pretty nice in the Loaded Impala, the Cadillac XTS and the Caddy ATS I have rented and felt much like my coworker's new Vette stingray.. GM has a pretty consistent theme going on that higher line like the Corvettes, etc.. but honestly I have to say that the new Buick Regal turbo I had the other week has the most plush seats I have seen in a GM car in a long time. I was really impressed with that car.

Now, you guys really want to see a crappy plastic interior you should check out my saturn sky. LOL ALL plastic with leather seats. Very light car though for more go pedal but I am OK with it. :lol:

Sorry about the hi-jack Joe!! To stay on topic I rented a 2015 Ford F150 last year just for the hell of it because there were a row of them in the exchange lot and one looked a little nicer than the rest.. ;)

Too bad I didn't get to play with this some more - it seems ford always has some neat apps they throw in there.

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Re: 2014 Silverado Review

Postby Von » Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:54 pm

Ruination wrote:I think all new car interiors are crappy these days


LOL, this is fun. I could bitch about new cars all day long...

Yup they're all plastic. pay more and you get nicer plastic. My wife's maxima has a VERY nice, well finished, plastic interior....

We were in it last night and I pushed the button to start it. I just sat there a moment and said "That's gonna suck when that breaks..." the key in the rental Ford was the same way... still a key, but may as well have been a button. The key wasn't flipping a switch that sent power to the starter relay, it was signaling the computer that you wished for IT to start the engine.
Stuff like that and all the other gadgets N law mentioned.... I really miss my triceratops sometimes.

Ruination... yeah, my Trooper did kinda sound like a can... BUT I only paid $300 for it. *shrug* The more I pay for a car the more I expect from it. I was tickled pink every time the Trooper started, it never pissed me off. My payment on the GTP is $170 a month and the fake "stitching" molded into the plastic on the dash pisses me off. I won't say what the payment on the Maxima is... but when we shut it off and the courtesy lights stay on a few seconds more than I think they should it pisses me off.

I try to keep up with what's going on with new cars, mostly out of morbid curiosity... but also hoping.. praying.. that some day an automaker will return to KISS principals. Just a solid, dependable, vehicle without all the electronic BS they cram into them today. It'll never happen...
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Re: 2014 Silverado Review

Postby -88- » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:16 am

Ruination your sky comes from an era of incredibly cheap/crappy/plastic interiors from all GM. Early 2000s were horrendous for any GM make & sub model not a full size truck. The nice'ens just had leather seats.

Von ' s last paragraph pretty much the setiment echoing thru my head.
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Re: 2014 Silverado Review

Postby Cronk » Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:01 pm

Now that's more like it guys! :lol: :lol: :lol:


Here is the Silverado Iceberg edition. Picked up a bit of ice on the trip back to work. Wondered why the temp gauge was a bit above average.

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Re: 2014 Silverado Review

Postby Von » Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:11 pm

Cronk wrote:Now that's more like it guys! :lol: :lol: :lol:


Here is the Silverado Iceberg edition. Picked up a bit of ice on the trip back to work. Wondered why the temp gauge was a bit above average.


Well... I can't blame that on those silly engineers and newfangledy snow. LOL, climate change...

it does remind me I'll need to come up with some kind of grille for the M715.... Don't think the brush guard will block much ice from building up on that exposed radiator.
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Re: 2014 Silverado Review

Postby Cronk » Mon Jun 08, 2015 11:10 pm

Back on track with this review. I have put close to 20k on the current (silver) truck. Been able to achieve a best mpg of 26.9 mpg. This is mainly due to the fact that I had a long section with a tail wind and some downhill driving. Still pretty impressive for a full size truck. That being said, the truck still averages between 18 and 20 mpg with my driving habits. I find it gets the best mileage around 60 MPH.

This one has developed a rattle beneath the steering column. It seems to be the hood latch but I'm yet to find a way to stop it. Nothing bad, but noticeable.

I like these trucks more and more but still can't justify buying one. The current "midnight edition" with a 6.2 is extremely attractive to me, but so is the up coming diesel Canyon. As long as my company pays the rental car bill, I'll just keep day dreaming until a find a deal that suites me.
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Re: 2014 Silverado Review

Postby squatch » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:49 am

You mean there's no grill de-icer on that truck. How on earth could you possibly drive a POS like that!
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