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Postby outofrshell » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:17 pm

This is a story of IF IT SOUNDS TO GOOD TO BE TRUE IT PROBABLY IS and a little whining with it. Last year I pulled my transmission to fix a leaking main seal although the seal was only 30,000 miles old, found that more oil was leaking at the distr. than any where else so with all oil leaks fixed, I in my great wisdom I thought the Trooper should also have a new clutch, an internet search found a kit for $43.00 ???? (private brand discontinued) upon arrival it is China made and against all gut feelings I installed it. Later in the year we run the Morrison Jeep Trail and of course the clutch started getting hot and slipping after it cooled down it seemed fined till I was in Silverton Co. and on hard pulls it would start smelling hot. Fast forward to Wyoming winter and the snow is piling up in my favorite bird hunting areas and every time I get into deep snow the clutch gets hot. No problem just change it except my knee has to be replaced in Dec. and now there is another month of bird season, the knee heals faster than the clutch and I'm ready to go but the truck isn't. Now the part that hurts I took the Trooper to a shop that I fully trust and they let me buy the clutch that I should of put in in the first place, shops usually don't let you do this because it is part of their profit margin but they are friends.This is second or third time in 40 years I have had to take a car to a shop and it really makes you wonder how you can participate in this sport if you don't turn your own wrenches Dave
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Waren VRS 8000 winch set up to use at either end of Trooper
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Re: Clutch

Postby Ed Mc. » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:33 pm

Yeah, gotta watch out for those Chinese auto parts. Most a Junk!

Exedy is the OE clutch, LUK is equal quality, I've also had good luck with a Sachs 3.1 4WD Pickup clutch on my "3.2 Stroker" build. Found the Sachs to be very smooth/progressive, with excellent bite. It would bark the P235's in 2nd gear easily. This clutch can be retrofitted to an otherwise-stock 2.8 as well.

Nice to have a shop you can trust, they're not easy to find anymore!

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Re: Clutch

Postby outofrshell » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:17 pm

The clutch kit I have had the best results with is Grip Force they use an Exedy plate a Daken cover plate and are 9 & 5/8" Dia. You think I would learn but every now and then old cheap raises his head and bites you right in the ---.
1989 Trooper 2.8/ 3.2 built V6, 5speed
Revolution gears
ARB Rear locker
ARB Front locker
SWAY-AWAY HD TORSION BARS
Self made Longer shackles
1998 Trooper front disc brakes and front seats
Self made HD Tie rods
Self made bumpers and grill guard w/ KC & Hella lights
Self made sliders
Waren VRS 8000 winch set up to use at either end of Trooper
Custom made cargo box w/ full length roll out drawers
31 X 10.50 X 15 Cooper STT Pro on Cragar black steel wheels
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Re: Clutch

Postby RickP » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:46 pm

Sorry to hear Dave. I'm a cheap SOB myself, but I won't cheap out if it's a part that requires removing the engine or transmission to change.
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Re: Clutch

Postby mudoilngears » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:27 pm

outofrshell wrote:The clutch kit I have had the best results with is Grip Force they use an Exedy plate a Daken cover plate and are 9 & 5/8" Dia. You think I would learn but every now and then old cheap raises his head and bites you right in the ---.

Daikin and Exedy are the same product. In other words Daikin Clutch, manufactures Exedy.
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Re: Clutch

Postby outofrshell » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:02 pm

The clutch was the last straw I knew I had to remove the trans to fix the oil leak but I was putting it off till it warmed up a little and bird season was over and my knee felt better. I don't know what the oil leak was about but this time the main seal is going back with a Speedy Sleeve on the crank. Yes Dakin sells under a lot of names and most are highly respected, Grip Force's plate is marked Exedy while cover plate is marked Dakin so in my humble opinion a good combo Dave
1989 Trooper 2.8/ 3.2 built V6, 5speed
Revolution gears
ARB Rear locker
ARB Front locker
SWAY-AWAY HD TORSION BARS
Self made Longer shackles
1998 Trooper front disc brakes and front seats
Self made HD Tie rods
Self made bumpers and grill guard w/ KC & Hella lights
Self made sliders
Waren VRS 8000 winch set up to use at either end of Trooper
Custom made cargo box w/ full length roll out drawers
31 X 10.50 X 15 Cooper STT Pro on Cragar black steel wheels
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Re: Clutch

Postby hessmess » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:28 pm

Well its good you got patched back up Dave, now for the Trooper! Almost sound like the engine problems I had a few years back. And I agree that if I had to pay someone to work on this Trooper I would have to get rid of it. I am hoping to make it to Moab this year in my Trooper.
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Re: Clutch

Postby outofrshell » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:53 am

It's a rare occasion when I resort to a shop but I have a lot of travel plans in the works Moab being one of them also the Rimrocker trail out of Montrose Co and a few others. Problem with a shop is it really drains your travel budget but no worse than having a clutch go out in BFE.
1989 Trooper 2.8/ 3.2 built V6, 5speed
Revolution gears
ARB Rear locker
ARB Front locker
SWAY-AWAY HD TORSION BARS
Self made Longer shackles
1998 Trooper front disc brakes and front seats
Self made HD Tie rods
Self made bumpers and grill guard w/ KC & Hella lights
Self made sliders
Waren VRS 8000 winch set up to use at either end of Trooper
Custom made cargo box w/ full length roll out drawers
31 X 10.50 X 15 Cooper STT Pro on Cragar black steel wheels
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